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re: What is the best waterfowl shotgun?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:55 am to Hangover Haven
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:55 am to Hangover Haven
My brother is a grown man and crushes ducks with a 20ga youth 870 express. Same gun he used to win competition sporting clays with. Shoot them in the head and they'll die no matter what you do it with. He just happens to be very good at it.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:28 pm to sloopy
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I will point out, if you shoot a Mag 12, you will not need to buy a new gun in 7 years
Why is that?
Because they don't break. It's that simple. Ask any gunsmith and they'll tell you that 95% of Auto 5's that they work on either don't have the rings sets right or they haven't been cleaned in years.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 3:50 pm to lv2bowhntAU
I shoot the Stoeger M3000. Great all around gun with Benelli insides at half the cost. If you have to have the option for the 3.5" chamber, then the Stoeger M3500. IMO, its not worth the extra money just to have the 3.5" option.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:00 pm to lv2bowhntAU
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Those old Wingmaster's are damn fine shotguns. Wearing one out is a testament to how much your dad hunted and how loyal he was to that Wingmaster. Takes years of killing critters to wear one of those out
Got one the put grocery's on the table for many years. Flat worn out. Even the blueing is gone off the receiver.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:58 pm to sloopy
I say that because there are Mag 12s being used by the third generation. Look at the quality and quantity of steel(not alloy) in the receiver. Close the action on one and it is like closing the door on a safe. Are they heavy? Yep. Do they kick more than gas guns? Yes, about the same as my Benelli. As an example, I have a 1950's model Sweet 16. It is as good today as the day it was taken out of the box. Thousands of rounds thru it and can go thru more than I will ever shoot. As a bonus, a good Mag 12 can be found for around $600 to $800 or less if you are patient. I would buy one with a Jap barrel.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:16 pm to reds on reds on reds
I have killed a bunch of ducks with a wood stock 1187 I got in 1987.
I bet there has been at least 10,000 rounds through that gun and it is still my go to duck gun.
(Do not buy the Wal Mart version of this gun that is now being sold. I know two people that did and both had trouble. Find an old one.)
I bet there has been at least 10,000 rounds through that gun and it is still my go to duck gun.
(Do not buy the Wal Mart version of this gun that is now being sold. I know two people that did and both had trouble. Find an old one.)
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:27 pm to reds on reds on reds
A5, but I liked my old Win SXS too.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:03 pm to Carson123987
Just read this whole thread. I'm in the market for a duck/goose hunting shotgun. I'm a hunting novice, I've been on 3 trips with friends and enjoy it and want to continue doing it.
I'm a lefty. First trip, borrowed a friend's Browning BPS 28". 2nd trip, used an 870 express. 3rd trip, borrowed a Beretta A300.
Of those 3, I liked the BPS the most, probably because of its ambidextrous style.
So I'm leaning to picking up a BPS, but I'm also considering spending a little more and getting a semi-auto.
Besides the obvious things like the safety orientation and the shell ejection, is there any difference on a left-handed specific shotgun?
If I get a pump, I'll likely get the BPS.
Doesn't seem like there are many left handed options out there.
Benelli SBE2
Benelli M2
Beretta A400
Franchi Affinity
Remington VersaMax
Charles Daly 600LH
Escort Extreme
Tristar Viper G2
Any advice?
I'm a lefty. First trip, borrowed a friend's Browning BPS 28". 2nd trip, used an 870 express. 3rd trip, borrowed a Beretta A300.
Of those 3, I liked the BPS the most, probably because of its ambidextrous style.
So I'm leaning to picking up a BPS, but I'm also considering spending a little more and getting a semi-auto.
Besides the obvious things like the safety orientation and the shell ejection, is there any difference on a left-handed specific shotgun?
If I get a pump, I'll likely get the BPS.
Doesn't seem like there are many left handed options out there.
Benelli SBE2
Benelli M2
Beretta A400
Franchi Affinity
Remington VersaMax
Charles Daly 600LH
Escort Extreme
Tristar Viper G2
Any advice?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm to busbeepbeep
Benelli Montefeltro comes in lefty. Can also get it in black synthetic. Good gun.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:12 pm to reds on reds on reds
I still shot a Benelli Nova pump that's 15 yes old. I'm not a great shot but put plenty of birds in the freezer. It's def a personal pref.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:02 pm to dwr353
A blue/walnut montefeltro 12ga will be my nice shotgun one day.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:12 pm to busbeepbeep
I am a lefty as well. For that reason my father and I have shot benelli super black eagles our entire lives but I believe more and more manufactures are making semi auto left handed shotguns other than benelli. I believe the berreta a400 comes in left handed now. So for me the choice would come down between the sbe2 left hand and the a400 left hand. I love my original sbe
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:17 pm to Timmayy
Price jump from the BPS to the others mentioned is pretty substantial, especially the A400 and the SBE2. The M2 would be my pick. Pretty much the same gun as the SBE2 but isn't chambered for 3.5" shells which isn't a big deal and is much cheaper.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:58 pm to busbeepbeep
I recommend to all new hunters to get a pump. Most forgiving, durable and reliable action. Once you have a little more experience and know what type of situation you will be hunting in then go ahead and upgrade to an auto. I have an old 870 that I bring on all my duck trips, a pump will give you a reliable backup forever.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:11 pm to busbeepbeep
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Just read this whole thread. I'm in the market for a duck/goose hunting shotgun. I'm a hunting novice, I've been on 3 trips with friends and enjoy it and want to continue doing it.
I'm a lefty. First trip, borrowed a friend's Browning BPS 28". 2nd trip, used an 870 express. 3rd trip, borrowed a Beretta A300.
I'm not a lefty so I can't provide much value from that standpoint, but I own all three of these guns and they're all great.
My dad has hunted with the same Browning BPS 12 gauge for nearly 40 years and has never once had a problem with it. He takes very good care of his shotguns, which is precisely why it's in immaculate condition. Brownings are the guns you hand down to your grandkids.
I've been duck hunting for over a quarter century and have pretty much exclusively used 870 Expresses. The lone exception was when I stepped up from 20 to 12 and I used my grandfather's 870 Wingmaster. I've had my 870 Express Super Mag for 15 years and swear by it.
I decided to try an automatic this year so I bought an A300. I've only hunted twice with it but it's done very well, and I like the weight and low amount of recoil. It and Stoeger are probably the best bang for your buck (no pun intended) on the auto market.
Also, in my experience, the type of hunting you do largely should dictate what gun you use. Heavy pumps generally aren't good for rice field hunting, especially if you're pass shooting and sky busting. If you're hunting tall timber where the ducks have to climb out after lighting, an automatic isn't a must. If you're standing by a tree and not in a blind, you might want to go light.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:18 pm to busbeepbeep
Just got a Franchi affinity and I've been happy with it.
I'd say it's the best bang for your buck auto but not near on the same level as the SBE and A400
I'd say it's the best bang for your buck auto but not near on the same level as the SBE and A400
Posted on 12/1/16 at 9:39 am to DuckSausage
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Just got a Franchi affinity and I've been happy with it.
Pity that only available in black and in the 3" affinity version and not the 3.5" intensity version.
The few times I've hunted have been in a rice field in Kaplan area where we've done a fair bit of goose hunting, so I think I want the 3.5" capability for flexibility, but I guess it isn't a necessity.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:05 am to busbeepbeep
You're right. The affinity comes in left handed models but I'm not sure the intensity does.
The montefeltro is a sweet shooting light gun also.
The montefeltro is a sweet shooting light gun also.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:18 am to reds on reds on reds
Love my A400.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:49 am to redbullwings
Winchester Model 12. Holds 7 shells. Extremely reliable.
Benelli M1. Holds 5 shells. Holds 4 shells with legal plug. Extremely reliable.
Winchester 870. Holds 5 shells. Distant 3rd in reliability.
Benelli M1. Holds 5 shells. Holds 4 shells with legal plug. Extremely reliable.
Winchester 870. Holds 5 shells. Distant 3rd in reliability.
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