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re: New home construction thread. ANY AND ALL advice/tips/tricks welcomed

Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by CGTigerfan
I'm on a boat
Member since Jan 2010
336 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:09 am to
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House will be facing directly west. Will probably have to re stain cypress posts and shutters often


Man-o-war spar varnish will help the posts last a little longer between sanding and refinishing. Put at least 3 coats on. Its expensive, but worth it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89546 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:13 am to
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Building with soil in bags is intriguing as well. You basically get your recipe down, fill the bags, and place barb wire between each layers of bags. Coat the exterior with a stucco type material. These homes are fire proof, termit resistent, and extremely energy efficient.


The problems with it appear to be - labor intensive (although unskilled, so you can do much of it yourself), you have to do mostly circles and circular arcs in design, and windows can be an issue.

Interesting trivia - one of the world's experts on earth bag building is Kaki Hunter, the chick who played the slutty blonde Wendy in Porky's.

Double stud construction and modern insulation have come along way to competing with the energy efficiency of ICF and soil type construction, and almost anyone can build them.

On the other hand, conventional construction with studs are never going to be termite resistant. If I was going to build a big rectangle as forever house, I'd be tempted to do it "engineered" and use an ICF product like Faswall or competing product - lay the courses myself and spend the money on concrete work, utilities and roofing. But they can put houses up so efficiently these days - I go back and forth.

I still have a couple of years before I really kick off the forever house project. Maybe some now innovation will come along or rammed earth will get more economical.
Posted by Bagger Joe
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
853 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:18 am to
I've had 2 houses built and the first was the closest my wife and I have come to divorce mostly over interior things. The second one was much easier because I changed my attitude about the interior. Every time she would come at me with one of those 6 inch paint color fans it made me crazy, so my reply was "handle it". I don't care if my bedroom is painted Deer Path or Morning Mist! It all looked beige to me. Same thing with flooring, granite and wood finishes. Handle it! The interior of the house is the woman's world anyway. As long as it wasn't anything I felt like I couldn't live with (which was nothing she had picked out) I can deal with it. Handle it!

The other tip I would give is that after all the interior studs were up, we met with the electrician and did a walk through. He said he could go by the plans exactly, but preferred to meet with the owners and do a walk thru. We would walk into each room and imagine where we wanted light switches and receptacles. He had some ideas about placement that wasn't on the plans that have worked out very well. Same with lighting.

Good luck! It can be a frustrating experience or a great one depending on your attitude.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:33 am to
I could talk about earth homes for hours. Like you said, labor and skill is the two largest hurdles. I am actually surprised these type homes aren't utilized more in the rural and low income communities. Would be a great charity organization.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30794 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:46 am to
Where are you building?

A couple hot electrical items:

Receptacles by the roof line for christmas lights.

Plug mold tucked under the cabinets instead of receptacles on the wall in the kitchen.

I don't care for plug mold, I think its ridiculously ugly, but its the new trend with rich people.

ETA: I would definitely go with LED lighting. This could be a big expense, but worth it.

My thoughts on the generator is it depends on where you are building. They are nice but require maintenance. For my next house I plan on doing a manual transfer switch that I can plug my crappy generator into and only run a few circuits. I don't really need the whole house running, but then again if that happens chances are my wife will be at work so all the luxuries aren't needed for me.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 9:50 am
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11857 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:56 am to
Use dimmer switches everywhere. Also, use wifi enabled switches - even if you don't plan on home automation now, if you install them now it will make your life easier and cheaper if you ever decide to add some home automation. Plus, dimmer switches are a god send when/if you have a baby.

Z-Wave switches are pretty much used by most home security companies.

And don't skimp on the out-door water spigots. If you plan on ever having an outdoor kitchen area, it's much easier and cheaper to run the electrical and plumbing now than later.

Final advice -- can't stress this enough, especially since you plan on adding on some day -- make sure the electrician does not go cheap on your circuit breaker box. You don't want him buying one 'just big enough' to fit every switch you need now. make sure you have a lot of empty spots for future use. Yes, you can always add another box for the addition -- but there will be a time when you may need to add some switches to your existing box.
Posted by GeorgianTiger
Member since Mar 2014
57 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:59 am to
Expand your garage / car port size and make sure you have somewhere to keep your lawn equipment and both vehicles with plenty room. I am not sure what the standard is here in GA but I know it's too damn small to be called a garage. Even if we had somewhere else to keep the lawn equipment, 4wheeler and all my other stuff, there would still be no way to put my truck and the wife's small SUV in there. Not even sure it would fit a fullsize truck if it were the only thing in there. And add power. Not sure what they were thinking only putting one receptacle on the garage. (Obviously I did not build)
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:17 am to
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Not even sure it would fit a fullsize truck if it were the only thing in there


Yea I made sure mine fits my truck and even a bigger truck one day. Mine is like 24' by 26'. House we looked at had two full size trucks in with no issues. Also made storage 12x26, never be big enough
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:28 am to
Glad i read this. Im gona xtend my carport now. Its only 11' 7" wide. Couple more feet wont hurt
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:29 am to
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Also made storage 12x26, never be big enough


My biggest mistake was not adding a 3rd garage for my mower and projects. so so so so dumb.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:31 am to
Im putting up a 40 x 60 shop next door. Half will be storage, other half will be a outdoor kitchen type deal overlooking a pond alittle bigger than nascars
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:40 am to
Can i move into your shop?
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3733 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:46 am to
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Im putting up a 40 x 60 shop next door. Half will be storage, other half will be a outdoor kitche

My brother just built a metal building 60'x100'.
It's massive.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:53 am to
similar to this one except I will have 2 roll up doors on the right wall. Plenty of room for all the shite im sure we will have.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 10:54 am
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:43 am to
Yea always make carport and storage bigger than you think you need. Also I'm adding a 20x30 building with roll up door for my bay boat. I'll have lots of room for all my stuff finally. Solid advice in this thread for sure
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:52 am to
Insulation! Personally based off experience I'd spray foam and add like a 1/2 inch sheet of polysterne to the exterior. I'd also foam the underside of my roof decking (though that is a debated topic). Not only will it cut your electric bills but also just makes your indoor air more comfortable.

Also cant have too much storage or outlets.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16581 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:40 pm to
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I have to sand, stain, and varnish already. Hate it.


Crappy stain/finish most painting contractors use these days, stuff isn't worth a damn for anything exterior. I've refinished a few doors like that for friends, good spar varnished them and 5 years later they still look great. Get the stuff with phenolic resins, not the cheaper alkyd.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by T4
Member since Mar 2014
288 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:04 pm to
I will be revisiting this thread tonight to give a start to finish run down of things to do and not to do as well as explaining the processes and procedures. I've built 40+ million worth of residential units numbering around 250 units over the last 11 years. I also run a framing subcontracting business that frames an average of 200 units a year. I have paid for a lot of valuable lessons over the years and would enjoy helping out.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3733 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:22 pm to
I appreciate that! Will be nice to know some things I can go over with the builder now, so we're not dragging feet later.
Posted by BottleGnome
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2014
133 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:34 pm to
To take this further look into setting up a structured media center and run homeruns of cat5e or cat 6 and coax to every room. Using a star topology with everything centrally located makes everything much easier for all involved.

Take advantage of the fact that you are building the house and do it right from the start. Also use conduit or tubing in the walls and avoid stapling any of the coax or cat5e/6. This will allow you to run new lines or replace bad ones to the existing outlets withoit having to cut or drill. On the outside of the house you can run 2 cat5e/6 and coax homeruns from the demarc point to the closet so that your service providers will have clear places to install everything.
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