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re: Defense Lawyers point of view for using your concealed firearm

Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28323 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:37 pm to
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lawyers


Not true.

I've had good dealings with all the lawyers I've dealt with, even that little cutie that opposed us.

"Let's wrap this is up and have a glass of wine."
"OK"

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81738 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

So you're comparing a PI case to criminal defense.
Go read it all again. It was the context of cops reactions to things only.

quote:

You can't really be a lawyer? If so, dear God.

We have established that you're a moron in other threads, so flail away.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:46 pm to
Some lawyers are aggravating, giant, d-bags. Some are cool, empathetic, and extremely helpful. If you sit in court, you can see who the judges like and hate
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28323 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 4:49 pm to
The guy we use, I consider a blessing.

Very fortunate to know him.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81738 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:05 pm to
Lawyers are a sorry lot.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

If you sit in court, you can see who the judges like and hate
This, by the way, is a good source of info when looking for a good criminal defense attorney -- assuming (a) you know criminal court judge, or two, very well and (b) you actually plan to line up an attorney before you start carrying.

Another good source of info on skilled, experienced criminal defense attorneys who are also "gun guys" is the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network. I think Vetteguy already posted a link, but I'll do it again, JIC.
LINK
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28323 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 5:29 pm to
Meh...

Just the ones nortb of I-10.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 6:54 pm to
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If I'm pumping gas late at night and a guy comes up to me and sticks a gun in my back asking for my wallet and I'm able to draw my gun and shoot him, I'm giving a statement. I know I was justified and I would much rather give a statement and go home to my wife and kids than exercise my right to remain silent and spend the night and jail and pay an attorney $20K so he can tell me to say exactly what I was going to say anyway.


You want to risk what may be the rest of your life to save $20K? There is no shortage of cases where a person thought they were justified in some action, and it turned out they didn't know the law.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:25 am to
Rodney Peairs, the BR guy who shot the japanese exchange student around halloween, got acquitted in the criminal trial, probably spent tons, then got stuck in the civil suit, $650K, i think.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:02 am to
That a-hole should have hung for shooting that kid.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:11 am to
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Rodney Peairs, the BR guy who shot the japanese exchange student around halloween, got acquitted in the criminal trial, probably spent tons, then got stuck in the civil suit, $650K, i think.


Honest question, how is that possible given this:

§2800.19. Limitation of liability for use of force in defense of certain crimes

A. A person who uses reasonable and apparently necessary or deadly force or violence for the purpose of preventing a forcible offense against the person or his property in accordance with R.S. 14:19 or 20 is immune from civil action for the use of reasonable and apparently necessary or deadly force or violence.

B. The court shall award reasonable attorney fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses to the defendant in any civil action if the court finds that the defendant is immune from suit in accordance with Subsection A of this Section.

Acts 2006, No. 786, §1.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:19 am to
Well it happened 20 something years ago so maybe that law didn't exist?

quote:

A. A person who uses reasonable and apparently necessary or deadly force or violence for the purpose of preventing a forcible offense against the person or his property in accordance with R.S. 14:19 or 20 is immune from civil action for the use of reasonable and apparently necessary or deadly force or violence.


I wouldn't call shooting someone who rang the doorbell reasonable use of deadly force. If that guy wouldn't have answered the door, that kid may still be alive today.

This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:25 am
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:42 am to
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Well it happened 20 something years ago so maybe that law didn't exist?


Must be this. I didn't realize it was that long ago.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3504 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 2:05 pm to
Pretty sure the immunity statute was passed later. Nothing that dude did was reasonable, and if he did it all over again, probably still would not have immunity.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:51 pm to
Anyone posting in this thread actually shot someone in self defense that has an actual point of view about the emotions and legal ramifications. We all read things and are taught things to do, until we are put in that position seems a little hard to keep arguing about how someone will feel or how you will handle the legal ramifications after the shooting.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9803 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 4:55 pm to
Someone on the OB has....or maybe it was his son. Forgot who it is.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166500 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:10 pm to
My uncle did years ago

And a cop who recently did
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 5:11 pm
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11486 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:12 pm to
I had a great uncle that did but lets just say it was a different time and even though he shot the guy through a screen door, he wouldve been under the jail now days.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

the immunity statute was passed later.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Anyone posting in this thread actually shot someone


I shot a man in Reneaux, just to watch him die.
I hear that train a comin', and hang my head to cry.
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