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re: Boat for both inshore and light offshore?

Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:20 am to
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:20 am to
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A guy i work with found a 2010-2012 blackjack 224 with a 250 yamaha and got it for $23k a few weeks ago


damn that's a hell of a deal, I saw a few on sportsman for sale. I love my boat but if I had to get a new one it would be a blackjack.

my buddy is possibly selling his POS Epic for one
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
521 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:22 am to
They are the old top water charters fleet boats. All upgrading to the 25's
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1634 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:28 am to
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They are the old top water charters fleet boats. All upgrading to the 25's


That's what I figured. Bryce owns Topwater Charters and he is selling his 2008 hull with a 2012 motor, but based on what you say, they are unloading the whole fleet of 224's
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5755 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:00 am to
If the majority of your fishing is inshore and you want to do some inshore why not just get a 24' bay boat? That's what I have used for years in Venice, and it has landed tuna, snapper, AJ, and lots of other stuff along with tons of inshore.

My view is if it's too rough for my bay boat I likely don't want to be out there anyway. Hard to nock a smaller cat for this also though, with the 72" I pilots you can even put a trolling motor on them.

Lastly... the 28' American That's my next boat......
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:08 am to
The cheaper kenner/mako/blazer 24s I've seen lately all need repowering, trailer work, rigging.

I'm curious if the 22 blackjack is as good in a 2 foot head sea as the old 24V.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23666 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:10 am to
Get a panga.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:27 am to
Sweet Baby Jesus


Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:46 am to
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try to find an old 24 Kenner VX


I tried to get them at that time to custom build one for me. I wanted a full transom to install a gill bracket. Would of been a nice rig for near shore/offshore fishing.

OP, a 25' Contender could do what you want.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2465 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 11:58 am to
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Sweet Baby Jesus


It's a fine boat. A few more pics.




Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:28 pm to
Both Hell's Bay(coming out soon) and Islamorada Boatworks have 24 foot bay boats.

I have not been in the Hell's Bay yet......the Islamorda boatworks bay is pretty sweet and has some Key's guys using for Florida Bay backcountry as well as going out to the reefs.

LINK

Hell's Bay

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:10 pm to


Very similar boat that I've always wanted if I had a family and a camp. I'm a big fan of inshore fishing and have friends I can take offshore trips with. But if I had a family and a camp that I was constantly making speck trips and the occasional snapper trip, I'd want a Gravois 24' with twin engines (I'm not going offshore without twins personally). Basically something like this (old pic I found from THT). Know a guy who used to charter out of one. Seems to be a deeper V boat than your typical bay boat, and with the outdrive, measures closer to 26'.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20417 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 pm to
If its too rough for a 24 bay then do you really want to go out? If its too rough for a 24 bay you need at least a 27 ft deep V or 24ft cat to want to fish that.

Again though, if you want something that takes chop better than a 24 bay than its not going to be a good inshore boat. There is no boat that is good offshore and enjoyable to cast for reds and trout. None.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:25 pm to
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not going to be a good inshore boat.


Depends on what you consider inshore. If you are up in the marsh, then yes, I understand that point. But if you are say inside the islands of Southeast Louisiana, you are inshore, and can very comfortably speck fish out of center console offshore boats. Lots of charter companies use them. Then there are the aluminum boats that are just a little larger than bay boats that give you somewhat of a deck for "inshore" fishing, but can get you to that first set of rigs to drip a line for some snapper. I don't think anyone is trying to get a Marlin chaser and a flats boat in one.
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6392 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:02 pm to
They are sweet boats.... Aren't you looking at 80k new though? Maybe more with the twins?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39461 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:09 pm to
Wait some of y'all won't go snapper fishing with a single engine boat? Lol
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6840 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:18 pm to
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I don't think anyone is trying to get a Marlin chaser and a flats boat in one.

I personally know someone who caught a marlin from a 24' Blazer Bay. He would fish the islands and inshore for reds and specks, then run to the near rigs for snapper routinely out of GI. One calm day he went trolling and caught a marlin. Now, he is a little crazier than your average guy, but it's been done.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:21 pm to
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I personally know someone who caught a marlin from a 24' Blazer Bay. He would fish the islands and inshore for reds and specks, then run to the near rigs for snapper routinely out of GI. One calm day he went trolling and caught a marlin. Now, he is a little crazier than your average guy, but it's been done.


If a good high pressure has set in, I will go a good ways in a 24' with one engine.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1634 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:21 pm to
Pretty cool to do what he did, but a 24 ft Blazer will never be considered a flats boat.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13473 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:37 pm to
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Wait some of y'all won't go snapper fishing with a single engine boat? Lol


I don't understand it either. I take care of my engine and pick my days. Probably once a summer I take it 30-35 miles out of dauphin island. Make regular 10-20 mile trips. If it breaks down that's why I pay sea tow.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1830 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:43 pm to
That american aluminum is sick.

while were talking about versatile boats, anybody seen these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHRGJ1tHnXw

https://www.shallowsportboats.com



this is the 27



says it drafts 8 on a plane and 15 at rest for the 27
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 2:57 pm
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