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re: University Club (LSU) golf membership cost
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:05 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:05 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
I think I would take BRCC over UClub. I like the no tee times at BRCC opposed to the fighting to get on at prime times at UClub. Although I like the style of golf at UClub more than BRCC, I don't like how difficult around the greens it is. At certain points, it is almost unfair.
Overall, I think the best option would be to have rich friends that are members at all three courses. That way you can play them all.
Overall, I think the best option would be to have rich friends that are members at all three courses. That way you can play them all.
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Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:05 am to Atom Knab
I've been a member of Fairwood, Sherwood, Shenandoah, and CCLA over the years.
The only course that isn't worth the money to me is BRCC. I've played it many times with friends.
CCLA is too expensive for most. When I was there is was 25k to get in, if you get out you usually get 10k for the stock. Dues started at $275 but climbed to $450 not including cart, quarterly minimums. I was getting bills close to $900 per month.
UCLUB is too crowded but cheap. Very nice practice area and not nearly as many bullshite high school country club cliques.
If I were to join one now it would clearly be Uclub but I'd rather drive to the bluffs, Island, SM etc with a group of friends.
The only course that isn't worth the money to me is BRCC. I've played it many times with friends.
CCLA is too expensive for most. When I was there is was 25k to get in, if you get out you usually get 10k for the stock. Dues started at $275 but climbed to $450 not including cart, quarterly minimums. I was getting bills close to $900 per month.
UCLUB is too crowded but cheap. Very nice practice area and not nearly as many bullshite high school country club cliques.
If I were to join one now it would clearly be Uclub but I'd rather drive to the bluffs, Island, SM etc with a group of friends.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:07 am to Atom Knab
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Overall, I think the best option would be to have rich friends that are members at all three courses. That way you can play them all.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:08 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Not 100% accurate. I hear they are abotu to roll out a differed/reduced I.Fee to junior (under 35) which they have never done before.
Their membership is aging and they want to mix a younger crowd.
This is what Colonial in Fort Worth did ... I live in BTR though, and play with a member there. They offered to me at a reduced initiation rate about two years ago. Just couldn't justify it with only playing there 4-5 times per year.
Not 100% accurate. I hear they are abotu to roll out a differed/reduced I.Fee to junior (under 35) which they have never done before.
Their membership is aging and they want to mix a younger crowd.
This is what Colonial in Fort Worth did ... I live in BTR though, and play with a member there. They offered to me at a reduced initiation rate about two years ago. Just couldn't justify it with only playing there 4-5 times per year.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:08 am to Camp Randall
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If I were to join one now it would clearly be Uclub but I'd rather drive to the bluffs, Island, SM etc with a group of friends.
If the Bluffs were 30 minutes from my door instead of an hour I would be a member there.
For a public/private course it is also usually the least crowded of all the courses that have been listed in this thread as well.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:09 am to Thorny
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golf had better figure out the proper business model to get average, middle-class people interested without breaking the bank
It's not just golf. Look at sporting events across the county. Most season tickets (for all sports) are no longer geared toward the middle class. Such things are becoming luxury items. I sure wish this was not the case.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:10 am to toca16
They offered me differed, but full dues. No stock option. So if I left the club I was on the hook for 100%.
I'd have to pony up the $25k at 35 or if I left the club before 35.
Dues of $450/month weren't worth it for as little as I'd get to play there.
I'd have to pony up the $25k at 35 or if I left the club before 35.
Dues of $450/month weren't worth it for as little as I'd get to play there.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:11 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Granted many more of the BRCC folk propogate it than CCL folk for obvious reasons.
I can tell you right now there are a lot of wannabe BRCC guys at CCLA. Any time BRCC did something, you had a contingent of pathetic mambers who just had to do something to keep up.
I'm out of there now and believe me I make fun of the place with the best of them. I joined to play golf, not to brag about what club I'm a member of. That isn't the case for many people unfortunately.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:11 am to Thorny
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However, golf had better figure out the proper business model to get average, middle-class people interested without breaking the bank, or it is doomed. Look at all of the closed country clubs around: Sherwood, Fairwood, etc.
The best way I can explain this is by using that triangle analogy. One point is affordable prices, the next point is great golf course, and the final point is not overcrowded.
You can take affordable prices and a great golf course, but you are going to be there with a plethora of people. Rounds will be 5 plus hours.
You can take a great golf course and not that many people, but you are going to pay for it.
You can take affordable prices and not that many people, but you are going to have to play a less than stellar golf course.
I realize this doesn't factor in driving distance and some other factors. But this is a simplified version of why golf courses don't succeed unless it is used to drive up real estate prices.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:14 am to Atom Knab
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The best way I can explain this is by using that triangle analogy. One point is affordable prices, the next point is great golf course, and the final point is not overcrowded.
You can take affordable prices and a great golf course, but you are going to be there with a plethora of people. Rounds will be 5 plus hours.
You can take a great golf course and not that many people, but you are going to pay for it.
You can take affordable prices and not that many people, but you are going to have to play a less than stellar golf course.
very well put
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:21 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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See, idk what to believe any more. Out of one side the mouth I hear that, out the other side I hear dissension in the ranks over the vastly more difficult redesign.
Ive heard this as well about the difficulty of the course from its members and I know several. But they still go out in droves to play. What other options do you have for a good quality course.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:22 am to Atom Knab
Yep, that's golf in a nutshell. We have a 5some of dependably players....it helps to combat slow play. You get used to a ratty golf course too after a while.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:24 am to Atom Knab
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You can take affordable prices and a great golf course, but you are going to be there with a plethora of people. Rounds will be 5 plus hours.
This about sums up my last 3 or 4 rounds at santa maria. Show up with a 4-some and the guy at the tee asks if we mind 1-2 more join.....
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:35 am to Atom Knab
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It's not just golf. Look at sporting events across the county. Most season tickets (for all sports) are no longer geared toward the middle class. Such things are becoming luxury items. I sure wish this was not the case.
I agree with this. Golf is the canary in the coal mine, but all sports are going through this.
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The best way I can explain this is by using that triangle analogy. One point is affordable prices, the next point is great golf course, and the final point is not overcrowded.
I realize this doesn't factor in driving distance and some other factors. But this is a simplified version of why golf courses don't succeed unless it is used to drive up real estate prices.
I am very familiar with the triangle analogy. The problem I have is that the rush to have every golf course be a "championship course" with a "signature hole", is driving the learner out of the game. The reduction of courses is clearly driving overcrowding as well. When established courses like Sherwood and Fairwood go under without any option to opening up to the public, the duffer gets left behind. And without duffers, the game is stuck in a shrinking model. There has to be a model that can save the courses, even if the original owners go under.
Perhaps it's a function of the sport itself, it being so tied to personal bragging about status.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:51 am to Thorny
Sorry, we don't allow duffers at Bushwood, I myself am no slouch....
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:55 am to Thorny
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When established courses like Sherwood and Fairwood go under without any option to opening up to the public, the duffer gets left behind. And without duffers, the game is stuck in a shrinking model. There has to be a model that can save the courses, even if the original owners go under.
Sherwood and Fairwood would still be open if not for the Island, Greystone, and Copper Mill. Old school courses just die sometimes.
Baton Rouge is actually great for beginners...LSU, Webb, City, Dumas, etc. It just kinda sucks for better players.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:58 am to theBeard
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UC is affordable but i have heard rumblings about over crowdin
Exactly. You want to play Saturday morning? You better have known that you wanted to on LAST Saturday morning, and called ahead for a time.
Way too many golfers out there for it to be worth it on the weekend. Hell, I can get a tee time at Money Hill on Friday afternoon for the following morning. And I end up doing that more often than playing at UC where I am a member.
Also, for the average golfer, UC can be pretty deflating. The greens are really tough, and if you can't stop a ball on your approach, you will have a frustrating day.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 10:59 am to The Stash
quote:oh shut the frick up.
golf in south la is so freaking cheap. People don't understand.
quote:are you ignorant or just plain stupid. florida has the weather to play golf year round. it also is a retirement state where wealthies go with all their money. they have the people to charge outrageous prices.
this! If you were in FL a course like the UC would be 30k to join and $1200/month. Believe me I have looked. 75k gets you a membership to lake nona, and I was told upwards of 150K to be a member at isleworth and interlachen
This post was edited on 2/18/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:02 am to Thorny
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This about sums up my last 3 or 4 rounds at santa maria. Show up with a 4-some and the guy at the tee asks if we mind 1-2 more join.....
I think this is a product of it being the only public course in BR worth playing.
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I am very familiar with the triangle analogy. The problem I have is that the rush to have every golf course be a "championship course" with a "signature hole", is driving the learner out of the game. The reduction of courses is clearly driving overcrowding as well. When established courses like Sherwood and Fairwood go under without any option to opening up to the public, the duffer gets left behind. And without duffers, the game is stuck in a shrinking model. There has to be a model that can save the courses, even if the original owners go under.
Perhaps it's a function of the sport itself, it being so tied to personal bragging about status.
I've spent the last ten minutes trying to explain my thoughts without getting a TL:DR. Suffice it to say, if there was a model in which a golf course could be saved and remain profitable, people would do it. I worked at a golf course in college and the goal set by management was to break even. Golf courses aren't a profitable venture, which unfortunately means that the golfing public has to suffer.
Posted on 2/18/14 at 11:04 am to CarRamrod
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oh shut the frick up
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