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re: This guy is against the St. George incorporation

Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Anyone who thinks the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People will sit by and let minority voting strength be diluted by approximatly half is living in a dream world.


I don't recall them sending Jesse Jackson down here when Central incorporated and its 91% white
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:32 pm to
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What continues to galvanize the focus of this part of the population is the shear non-response and almost pure opposition from the downtown and inside the city limits folks which seemingly can only mean a few things...they don't think there is a problem, they value their leadership position more than what's good for the community, they don't really understand how important a great public education system really is and/or they just don't care.


This x 1000

The only thing coming from the opponents of St. George's mouth, are negative attacks.

First they called us racists.
Then they called us unorganized.
Then they tried to call us a small group led by a few loud proponents.

Not 1 time has any BR Together turd even mentioned the actual problem and cause of the whole thing, and how to fix it. Failing schools.

Instead they are using bullying and scare tactics to try to demonize average citizens that lie in an incorporated area. We are not fleeing. We are taking the St. George area and incorporating. We are standing up to the laziness and idiocy of BR proper and forming our own city.

Just think, all of this could have been avoided if the BR school officials and city government actually gave a shite about failing education. Failing education leads to job flight, and reduces the attractiveness to businesses seeking a move to our state. High crime and stupidity does not equal job gain or higher education. But apparently, it does lead to BR city government and EBR Schools.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:38 pm to
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In the last 5 years since the Fed lawsuit was settled almost HALF (3 of 7) of the new schools built in EBR have been in the St George area.


Which schools are those?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:45 pm to
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I have no hate for the people in this area, far from it actually. I just find the throw away careless indifferent mentality to be as revolting as can be, and exactly why this city remains in its current condition, a mere reflection of the residents.


Yes, because it's caring parents wanting their children to grow up in a safe neighborhood with good schools that is killing the city. Not shitty public schools, high crime, and politicians/administrators too worried about having their name on a fricking amusement park, rather than fixing the real problems of the city.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127395 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:50 pm to
Woodlawn Elementary
Woodlawn Middle
Woodlawn High
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25339 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:52 pm to
A little off topic....Anyone see the blurb about TogetherBR being part of an outside group (IAF)? Thought that was kind of weird given their name.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33875 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Woodlawn High


This is counted as a new school?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56454 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:01 pm to
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No, the point is that the pattern will continue far as long as we continue to do the same things, not fix a value to things worth fighting for, and surrender at the blink of an eye. I'm saying that if you're not careful, your children's children are going to be making their last stand in some insignificant cow pasture and you're doing just that right now.



meh. The people in St. George should invest in St. George. Baton Rouge is a lost cause.

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At present, you live to serve this ship. Row well and live. That's what we've all become because there is no real purpose to living in a place you have no ownership or identity to than to eat, shite, sleep, and back to work. One place is just like another, except when the other is newer and more shiny, then you leave for it, uncontrollably mesmerized by the glitz that in ten to twenty years gets dated and ugly, and so you keep moving in search for something new and shiny down the road. Almost never thinking that perhaps the answer is not found in the sparkle, but in you MAKING THE AREA a community you own and identify with and so love and are willing to fight for.



You love to think for others. The community I live in is very low on the list of things that fulfills my life. And, with respect to my children, I have a responsibility to put them in the best possible environment from a safety and educational perspective.

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We used to have areas like this, and it still exists in other areas in this country, and is never that way because a diamond fell from the sky or people fell in a bed of roses. They mad it that way because of an intention to make it a permanent community they identified with.



If you can't get the people of incorporated Baton Rouge to care enough to do something, then your point is worthless. Go preach to those who live in the city limits.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:09 pm to
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If it's about the schools then keep fighting that fight. Stop trying to make us a city. If we become a city then the resources will have to be spread throughout, not just in education. SG cant support the ivy league of public schools along with everything involved in running a city.

Your statement is so obviously accurate I just don't see how the good people who live in St George don't get it. I guess they are so frustrated and emotional that their thinking is not 100% logical.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:11 pm to
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I don't recall them sending Jesse Jackson down here when Central incorporated and its 91% white



There is a huge difference between a small, concise, easily identifiable area with a fraction of the population of Baton Rouge setting up its own school system.

SG does not fit any of those descriptions.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:11 pm to
another reason to vote for st. George
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Woodlawn High



This is counted as a new school?
It's my understanding that because the former Woodlawn HS building sat astride a deep fault line causing numerous structural problems with its buildings, that it was completely abandoned and torn down and an entirely new structure was built several hundred yards away from the fault line.

Responding to the other poster who asked what schools, it was Woodlawn HS, Woodlawn Middle and an elementary school that I'm drawing a blank on its name right now. I'm pretty sure it was not Woodlawn Elementary. Someone who lives in that area can probably come up with its name.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:17 pm to
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Then they tried to call us a small group led by a few loud proponents


Bug Im not hating, but out of the 100,000+ residents that live in the proposed area, you only have 9,000+/- signatures. 1 out of 10 is pretty small.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:25 pm to
We are well past 10,000 now. Also, not all of the 100k residents are of voting age, or registered to vote.

ETA: it takes time to get to 18,000 people. Setting up locations with volunteers, and letting residents know where to sign takes much effort. The rate of acquisition of signatures is not waning.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:27 pm to
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I guess they are so frustrated and emotional that their thinking is not 100% logical


Well when you bring in a reverend and use a Baptist church as your speaker box saying things like "The city of Baton Rouge is a dragon and it needs slaying" Then yes you are correct.

Also the good people of SG also used the parish library for a rally shouting "Shut it down!" referring to the government all the while using a government building.
Posted by MrCoolBeans
Coolsville
Member since Jan 2014
242 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:29 pm to
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We are well past 10,000 now. Also, not all of the 100k residents are of voting age, or registered to vote.


Good point
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:34 pm to
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There is a huge difference between a small, concise, easily identifiable area with a fraction of the population of Baton Rouge setting up its own school system.

SG does not fit any of those descriptions.



Good point, so I ask you, why does an area with a population of 107,000 (St George) have only 11 schools, and the city has 70 schools with a population of 230,000? Who is doing the planning here?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57433 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:35 pm to
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The rate of acquisition of signatures is not waning.
i hope you arent going to be witch hunt.
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Also the good people of SG also used the parish library for a rally shouting "Shut it down!" referring to the government all the while using a government building.


I don't recall a rally with shouting like that at the library, but I do recall an opposition meeting planned at a church whereby a priest called an incorporation effort immoral and compared it to acts of adultery and abortion.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 4:42 pm to
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why does an area with a population of 107,000 (St George) have only 11 schools, and the city has 70 schools with a population of 230,000? Who is doing the planning here?


Very good point. I'd like to know Russian's response on this.
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