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re: This guy is against the St. George incorporation
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:10 am to Ignignot
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:10 am to Ignignot
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.the above quoted is the money shot dude, I like your desire and passion to see what baton rouge could be/should be, but when you are talking about people's kids in the now, people simply are going to invest in the idealist hope of community, could BR be saved, possibly.....but nobody is willing to wait around on it
Just keep your kids in a shitty school system. I'll get better eventually even though it hasn't in 40 years. Hang in there though!
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:12 am to Bear Is Dead
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SIAP but that is the child molester from Workaholics. I think his name is Topher.
Ursin actually. He's in a rock band and teaches guitar lessons. Oh and he thinks everyone is racist.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:14 am to LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge is so metal.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:15 am to LSUWrangler
That makes sense. Ursin sounds kinda like A Russian name.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:19 am to LSUWrangler
He's got a three step plan to save Baton Rouge
1. Run for metro council
2. Raise minimum wage in BR to $15/hr.
3. Put all the "rich white people" in prison.
some of the comments on that page - wow, just wow.
1. Run for metro council
2. Raise minimum wage in BR to $15/hr.
3. Put all the "rich white people" in prison.
some of the comments on that page - wow, just wow.Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:19 am to Ignignot
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@Mike Da Tigah......the above quoted is the money shot dude, I like your desire and passion to see what baton rouge could be/should be, but when you are talking about people's kids in the now, people simply are going to invest in the idealist hope of community, could BR be saved, possibly.....but nobody is willing to wait around on it
Is this new? No, but the answer isn't to divide the city and create yet more urban blight overnight, and thus create a much larger problem in crime and filth, but to work within it for change, change that will never come when the people won't make a stand to fight for what matters. This is not the recipe for success, but the recipe for disaster, and it's not just this St. George thingy, but a pattern of retreating from the problem that is a self fulfilling prophesy.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:22 am to Mike da Tigah
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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Exactly! That's why we're forming St.George.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:22 am to Mike da Tigah
When the going gets tough, cut and run.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:25 am to Mike da Tigah
Mike I agree with a lot of what you said. I am sorry I did not expound on my thoughts. I was mainly refering to the East Baton Rouge School System which is the root of this St George thing. The schools have to get better and this pull out will make St George a better school system for the kids that come in, move in , or already live in that district. The remaining EBRPSS will HAVE to get better they have no choice... sink or swim. But without the pullout they will continue to play card tricks with attendance zones, pluck and place certain kids to cover failing schools, all while ignoring the vast majority of the ave to below ave student.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:25 am to Rickety Cricket
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When the going gets tough, cut and run.
It's hard to rally the troops when they're in full retreat, and never known anything but the white flag of surrender.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:26 am to Mike da Tigah
Mike, some of the things you mentioned - blight, overgrown lawns, downed fences, unmaintained ditches etc. There are currently ordinances in place to remedy this. Actually getting anyone at DPW to enforce those ordinances however - good luck. I've been fighting that losing battle for the last seven years and now don't even bother trying anymore. One of the reasons I'm currently leaning pro St. George. Cant get any worse can it?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:32 am to Mike da Tigah
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Want to see Baton Rouge get better? Invest in it.
They destroyed the school system. Want to see Baton Rouge get better? Stop bringing down the top of the schools to save the bottom. Will that ever happen? frick no. I've watched it on a slow slide since I was a 3rd grader riding the bus for 45+ minutes to a school far away from where I lived.
I'd love to trust my child to the Magnet/GT program but we all know the leadership isn't worthy of that trust. I'm lucky to have enough money to give me options. Many of those who have bailed to Ascension and Livingston don't have those options.
FWIW I live in South BR and have real estate in BR and St. George.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:32 am to SuperflyLSU
I'm for St George and I dont even live in BR
BR city govt is corrupt as shite and seem to be lacking on their end when it comes to public services and public schools
So tell them to step it up or frick em
BR city govt is corrupt as shite and seem to be lacking on their end when it comes to public services and public schools
So tell them to step it up or frick em
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:40 am to MrPackSix
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So tell them to step it up or frick em
If only the proposed St. George area were an Island. If anything, this will just amp it up that much faster, and it WILL affect the St. George residents, and guess what's next? Yep, more retreat. It would be better to buy a double wide trailer. At least it has wheels attached. Now, Tiger Stadium might be a little more difficult to fix wheels on to bring it with you.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:42 am to Mike da Tigah
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Idiotic....
If there's selling to be done by Baton Rouge, it's to sell BR residents with kids why they shouldn't evacuate to St, George to send their kids to school.
Now, let's suppose St. George schools are wildly successful as you all hope. What do you suppose will happen to the Baton Rouge population, or rather those people with kids first, then as the evacuation continues, and property values plummet, everyone else?
Now, who's your next door neighbor you call Baton Rouge?
You people really aren't thinking any of this through very well.
This might yet go down as the absolute dumbest thing that Baton Rouge does to date, and I mean world class retarded.
Is that your best argument? That the buffer between St. George and North Baton Rouge that is Baton Rouge will be gone?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:43 am to MrPackSix
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BR city govt is corrupt as shite and seem to be lacking on their end when it comes to public services and public schools
It is city-parish govt., and the facts state otherwise.
They also have no involvement in schools. Completely different entity.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:52 am to moneyg
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Is that your best argument? That the buffer between St. George and North Baton Rouge that is Baton Rouge will be gone?
Well Florida Blvd didn't work out so well, did it?
There is no such thing as a buffer. It's all imaginary bullshite, and The proposed St. George already has the big nasty in place throughout it, so it's not as if this is a pristine wonderland being held back by the bad BR people. It's all Baton Rouge, and unless you find a way to erect a Berlin Wall with 50 cals, check points, and a moat with alligators, you're not going to stop the crime anywhere in this city, because you can't run from it. It will catch up, simply because we aren't doing anything about it, but feeding it by surrendering the city to the urban blight. We built temporary unremarkable structures to make fast cash and were terribly surprised when those areas we built are no longer desirable. Areas I grew up thinking were the center of action are now shanty towns because the people didn't see the value in fighting for it. It would be much better if this city was an island. Then perhaps people wouldn't trick themselves so easily into thinking they can run from their problems. There just isn't enough land to escape it.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:28 am to Mike da Tigah
So "invest in it"
What does that mean for your average joe?
I vote, pay taxes, don't litter, use the libraries and the parks...always put my buggy up...
What else should I be doing? How long can we keep failing at the same thing before something needs to change?
What does that mean for your average joe?
I vote, pay taxes, don't litter, use the libraries and the parks...always put my buggy up...
What else should I be doing? How long can we keep failing at the same thing before something needs to change?
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:32 am to Mike da Tigah
Mike - a few questions...1) do you have kids? 2) where do you live? and 3) do you belong to some organization that is working to better the community, or do you give/donate time to causes that better the community?
I have 2 young kids and just moved barely inside the St George area to the south of I-10. I concur with the sentiments of others that have already stated they're not willing to negotiate or play Russian roulette with their kid's education...it just isn't going to happen. This kind of conviction doesn't go for the BS rhetoric. We're from LA originally and lived in the Atlanta metro for 12 yrs, so I've experienced a great quality of life with awesome public school system. I'm also one of those that agree we need a vibrant downtown that is connected because it brings value to the community in many ways. What you don't seem to understand is that families with multiple young kids and full-time career jobs don't have ample amounts of free time to spend running around downtown all the time. We do it probably more than others because we enjoy it, but we're probably not the norm. These kinds of people, which are in the plenty in south BR are in the middle transition in their lives and they're the ones being left out in the cold here. Young professionals without kids and older folks with grown kids aren't as motivated by having a great public school system. What we're seeing with the SG movement is that folks like me sick and tired of the status quo...simple as that. What continues to galvanize the focus of this part of the population is the shear non-response and almost pure opposition from the downtown and inside the city limits folks which seemingly can only mean a few things...they don't think there is a problem, they value their leadership position more than what's good for the community, they don't really understand how important a great public education system really is and/or they just don't care.
At the end of the day, something is going to give way and break through all of this. I support the movement, but will also continue to support the downtown area with my time and money. If incorporation doesn't happen, the push from the people isn't going to stop. Our leadership is going to be forced into education reform...the ball is already rolling. Get on board or get left behind. We aren't going to accept the current state of affairs.
I have 2 young kids and just moved barely inside the St George area to the south of I-10. I concur with the sentiments of others that have already stated they're not willing to negotiate or play Russian roulette with their kid's education...it just isn't going to happen. This kind of conviction doesn't go for the BS rhetoric. We're from LA originally and lived in the Atlanta metro for 12 yrs, so I've experienced a great quality of life with awesome public school system. I'm also one of those that agree we need a vibrant downtown that is connected because it brings value to the community in many ways. What you don't seem to understand is that families with multiple young kids and full-time career jobs don't have ample amounts of free time to spend running around downtown all the time. We do it probably more than others because we enjoy it, but we're probably not the norm. These kinds of people, which are in the plenty in south BR are in the middle transition in their lives and they're the ones being left out in the cold here. Young professionals without kids and older folks with grown kids aren't as motivated by having a great public school system. What we're seeing with the SG movement is that folks like me sick and tired of the status quo...simple as that. What continues to galvanize the focus of this part of the population is the shear non-response and almost pure opposition from the downtown and inside the city limits folks which seemingly can only mean a few things...they don't think there is a problem, they value their leadership position more than what's good for the community, they don't really understand how important a great public education system really is and/or they just don't care.
At the end of the day, something is going to give way and break through all of this. I support the movement, but will also continue to support the downtown area with my time and money. If incorporation doesn't happen, the push from the people isn't going to stop. Our leadership is going to be forced into education reform...the ball is already rolling. Get on board or get left behind. We aren't going to accept the current state of affairs.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:55 am to Sir Drinksalot
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So "invest in it"
What does that mean for your average joe?
I vote, pay taxes, don't litter, use the libraries and the parks...always put my buggy up...
What else should I be doing? How long can we keep failing at the same thing before something needs to change?
Invest in your city, your local business and industry, and keep the wealth here to fund our infrastructure.
Buy and support local Baton Rouge.
When I spend my money with a chain my wealth is lost forever after some chump change jingle is given to my city and state in revenue. Money then goes away to be enjoyed by others out of state like their corporate office, lawyers, bankers, etc, all who share in the revenue soaked from this area. Their local community and state benefits, but we get soaked in the long haul.
When I buy from a local company that supports other locals, buys from them, they live here, bank here, and their money stays here, and most important of all, the money is taxed multiple times to fund our infrastructure.
I buy a widget from Joe's store. The widget is manufactured here, and the components purchased here, and every single time that money is exchanged it's taxed, so rather than jingle I get cash, a lot more of it, and that's wealth creation, job creation, and wealth stays here to be taxed. With our chains you have one shot and it's done. Goodbye wealth. It's over.
Every one of us determine what we will invest in by our personal choices, and that is reflected in every single thing we see around us. If we invest in out of state chains, we get chains dominating our landscape and wealth is lost. If we support Baton Rouge business, and especially those who are intent on supporting other BR business and industry, we get so much more bang for our buck than anything else we could do, and Baton Rouge has ownership to its own city as a worthwhile community. What's it matter if you live next to box stores. When times get tough, you just move to another area next to a similar box store. However, when you support your local community, you have a community that you are tied to and it means something. They know you, and you them, and it matters because you're a community rather than just a truck stop like everywhere else.
That's how a Baton Rouge gets better, by investing in itself, by becoming a community again, and by seeing itself as better than the status quo accepted most everywhere else, the same who are fighting similar challenges as we are in funding our own infrastructure.
That being said, in a free country, you have to first understand the WHY it's important for us all before you can then get people to change direction and make better personal choices in who they are supporting, them, or us? We live here, and it's always been our choice, and those choices are reflected I. What we see around us day after day. We make this so, for good or bad.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:07 am
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