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re: This guy is against the St. George incorporation
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:57 am to LSUWrangler
Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:57 am to LSUWrangler
Please remove my photo from your post. You're invading my privacy.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 10:58 am to LSURussian
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:03 am to Mike da Tigah
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Is this new? No, but the answer isn't to divide the city and create yet more urban blight overnight, and thus create a much larger problem in crime and filth, but to work within it for change, change that will never come when the people won't make a stand to fight for what matters. This is not the recipe for success, but the recipe for disaster, and it's not just this St. George thingy, but a pattern of retreating from the problem that is a self fulfilling prophesy.
I think what's going on in BR is representative of what's going on in the US in general. People who are dragging a society down have no incentive to better themselves or their situation because there are big safety nets to keep them from having to feel the pain. Maybe if they realize they have to suddenly be self reliant for once, they would get out and improve their situation instead of constantly relying on the "rich folk" of SG to pay for their piss poor decisions and cronyism.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:10 am to Camp Randall
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Owner of Bengals and Bandits?
no
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:13 am to Mike da Tigah
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There is no such thing as a buffer. It's all imaginary bullshite, and The proposed St. George already has the big nasty in place throughout it, so it's not as if this is a pristine wonderland being held back by the bad BR people. It's all Baton Rouge, and unless you find a way to erect a Berlin Wall with 50 cals, check points, and a moat with alligators, you're not going to stop the crime anywhere in this city, because you can't run from it. It will catch up, simply because we aren't doing anything about it, but feeding it by surrendering the city to the urban blight. We built temporary unremarkable structures to make fast cash and were terribly surprised when those areas we built are no longer desirable. Areas I grew up thinking were the center of action are now shanty towns because the people didn't see the value in fighting for it. It would be much better if this city was an island. Then perhaps people wouldn't trick themselves so easily into thinking they can run from their problems. There just isn't enough land to escape it.
You've proven that you can't do anything about it. Right now, you are making the case that the incorporated part of Baton Rouge cannot be saved without the unincorporated part of East Baton Rouge investing in it.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:20 am to dewster
quote:Just forget you ever saw that photo, okay?
Is that Russian? Didn't picture him for someone that would look like that.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:24 am to LSURussian
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:26 am to moneyg
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You've proven that you can't do anything about it. Right now, you are making the case that the incorporated part of Baton Rouge cannot be saved without the unincorporated part of East Baton Rouge investing in it.
It appears that fighting Baton Rouge is the only option. Either fighting BR to incorporate St. George, or fighting BR to save it from itself.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:34 am to LSUWrangler
quote:Why do you insist on revealing what I look like? Please edit your post. Thanks.
Yes that's LSU Russian, for anyone interested
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:39 am to LSUWrangler
I think he posts here
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:56 am to moneyg
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You've proven that you can't do anything about it. Right now, you are making the case that the incorporated part of Baton Rouge cannot be saved without the unincorporated part of East Baton Rouge investing in it.
No, the point is that the pattern will continue far as long as we continue to do the same things, not fix a value to things worth fighting for, and surrender at the blink of an eye. I'm saying that if you're not careful, your children's children are going to be making their last stand in some insignificant cow pasture and you're doing just that right now.
Show me a place in a city that people think is worth fighting for and I'll show you the same exact variables in place every single time. However, these things were never as a result of it falling from the sky in as a gift from the heavens, rather people first placing a value to it as THEIR community rather than an area owned by out of state corporations and no ownership or identity to the area by the local residents.
At present, you live to serve this ship. Row well and live. That's what we've all become because there is no real purpose to living in a place you have no ownership or identity to than to eat, shite, sleep, and back to work. One place is just like another, except when the other is newer and more shiny, then you leave for it, uncontrollably mesmerized by the glitz that in ten to twenty years gets dated and ugly, and so you keep moving in search for something new and shiny down the road. Almost never thinking that perhaps the answer is not found in the sparkle, but in you MAKING THE AREA a community you own and identify with and so love and are willing to fight for.
We used to have areas like this, and it still exists in other areas in this country, and is never that way because a diamond fell from the sky or people fell in a bed of roses. They mad it that way because of an intention to make it a permanent community they identified with.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 11:59 am to Mike da Tigah
It might be worth noting that the issue of an unincorporated portion of a parish/county supporting an incorporated portion of the same parish/county with tax money only exists in one place in the entire country.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:01 pm to LSUWrangler
quote:Really? Where? Link?
It might be worth noting that the issue of an unincorporated portion of a parish/county supporting an incorporated portion of the same parish/county with tax money only exists in one place in the entire country.
ETA: Oh, I just figured out what you're referring to....Metairie in Jefferson Parish.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:19 pm to Mike da Tigah
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I have no hate for the people in this area, far from it actually. I just find the throw away careless indifferent mentality to be as revolting as can be, and exactly why this city remains in its current condition, a mere reflection of the residents.
This is actually spot on
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:23 pm to Mike da Tigah
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At present, you live to serve this ship. Row well and live. That's what we've all become because there is no real purpose to living in a place you have no ownership or identity to than to eat, shite, sleep, and back to work. One place is just like another, except when the other is newer and more shiny, then you leave for it, uncontrollably mesmerized by the glitz that in ten to twenty years gets dated and ugly, and so you keep moving in search for something new and shiny down the road. Almost never thinking that perhaps the answer is not found in the sparkle, but in you MAKING THE AREA a community you own and identify with and so love and are willing to fight for.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:25 pm to lsu2006
Mike really does own this debate.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:26 pm to Mike da Tigah
GRUMBLE GURMBLE BRUMBLE...I'm old and I can't handle change...grumbel bruble
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:26 pm to upgrayedd
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Maybe if they realize they have to suddenly be self reliant for once, they would get out and improve their situation instead of constantly relying on the "rich folk" of SG to pay for their piss poor decisions and cronyism.
You've never faced that kind of adversity for a day in your life. Shut the frick up.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:29 pm to iAmBatman
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GRUMBLE GURMBLE BRUMBLE...I'm old and I can't handle change...grumbel bruble
Change can occur without giving the frick up.
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian
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It might be worth noting that the issue of an unincorporated portion of a parish/county supporting an incorporated portion of the same parish/county with tax money only exists in one place in the entire country.
Really? Where? Link?
ETA: Oh, I just figured out what you're referring to....Metairie in Jefferson Parish.
This is an interesting aspect of this whole discussion. I believe a lot of issues like this are created in the absence of local(city) authority to annex/control development outside of its borders. Theoretically, I would have thought this entire area would have been annexed years ago. I guess it is a question of what can cities do in this situation...
In Texas, for example, the area around a city's legal boundaries is known as the ETJ (Extra Territorial Jurisdiction). Its size is dependent upon population, but within that ETJ, cities can enforce certain development regulations and involuntarily annex as desired subject to state law limits and service requirements.
I take it Louisiana has no such "ETJ" development control or broad provisions for involuntary annexations, correct?
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