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re: This guy is against the St. George incorporation

Posted on 2/19/14 at 5:50 am to
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 5:50 am to
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If there's selling to be done by Baton Rouge, it's to sell BR residents with kids why they shouldn't evacuate to St, George to send their kids to school.


How do you promote a school system thats as bad as EBRPSS? People have been jumping ship for ascension/ Livingston for years. This is a chance for the parish to keep more revenue.

But back on topic.....is Russian available for autographs?
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16742 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:06 am to
I heard a lady on the radio that is part of this better together campaign. They asked her "well what can be done about the schools?" She goes off on some bullshite response ... "Well there is so much potential In the Ebr public school system..."

No there's not.

It's a complete mess and won't be getting any better.

And what are these "better together" fools trying to do? They can't vote either way. There signs should say "please don't take your money" bc that's what they are really scared of.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15376 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:30 am to
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What do you suppose will happen to the Baton Rouge population, or rather those people with kids first, then as the evacuation continues, and property values plummet, everyone else?


People have been leaving BR in droves for the past 30 years. NOW all of a sudden, you guys are worried about what will happen to BR and your property values. Your statement is another example of how BR simply doesn't care about the unincorporated areas of the parish.

Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15376 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:31 am to
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This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 6:32 am
Posted by LSUWrangler
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
365 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:41 am to
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And what are these "better together" fools trying to do? They can't vote either way. There signs should say "please don't take your money" bc that's what they are really scared of.



It cracks me up that they are obtaining names/addresses/phone numbers on a petition that is pretty pointless. The proponents petition is needed to legally bring this to a vote. The opponents petition is basically a data mining scheme. They'll probably sell all the info to some junk mail company when its all said and done
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:46 am to
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There signs should say "please don't take your money"


Simple way to put it, I like.
Posted by LloydChristmas
in a van down by the river
Member since Nov 2009
2829 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:59 am to
Or "Better with you money and test scores"
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:01 am to
"Magnet Schools: the original racist breakaway kids"
Posted by TenaciousTig
....on the wall
Member since Feb 2007
869 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:02 am to
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Now, let's suppose St. George schools are wildly successful as you all hope. What do you suppose will happen to the Baton Rouge population, or rather those people with kids first, then as the evacuation continues, and property values plummet, everyone else?


thats an easy fix.....they will have to be better...something they do not have to be now.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9926 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

People have been leaving BR in droves for the past 30 years. NOW all of a sudden, you guys are worried about what will happen to BR and your property values. Your statement is another example of how BR simply doesn't care about the unincorporated areas of the parish.


Better sell now before property values dive and you
find yourself under water. SELL, SELL, SELL
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58857 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:19 am to
quote:

People have been leaving BR in droves for the past 30 years. NOW all of a sudden, you guys are worried about what will happen to BR and your property values.


OK, first off, I never stop talking about Baton Rouge needing to give a shite about Baton Rouge, and the need for the community to act like a community, so you've apparently never caught my comments on the subject, which is hard to believe, but let me let you plug in here. It never took St. George to get me to talk about this. I've been on this subject, and the need to buy and support our local independent business, etc, for a very long time.

quote:

Your statement is another example of how BR simply doesn't care about the unincorporated areas of the parish.


And secondly, the unincorporated areas of Baton Rouge you speak of that you think get a raw deal seem to care even less about their own unincorporated areas of the parish, because they sure as hell have been leaving it for Livingston parish and Assension Parish for some time now as well.



And let's be clear about something here, none of this will matter when your next door neighbor is a ghetto and there's no more demarcation line to differentiate the parts of this city you don't want to be identified with (NBR) and that which you do identify with (SBR), and the line no longer Florida Blvd, then I-12, but Rather the parish line.

The real reason this line keeps moving is because you keep moving and the big Nasty taking over in its place.

The reason you fail at this is because you don't understand the concept of your own community, but hell, given your addiction to everything chain, it comes as no big surprise you don't get it.

I witnessed first hand when these St. George areas came into existence, back when Shenandoah was in the middle of the woods, when these areas were the first exodus, and know the people and reasoning behind it, and it was the same people who put the ball in motion, a trend in an era renowned for disposable everything, back when hardwood floors were replaced with wall to wall shag carpeting, when we went from buying an iron for example that lasted a lifetime to buying a new one every couple of years or so, and the common denominator with every bit of this is reflected in our mentality that Baton Rouge itself is disposable, and it isn't. These areas were formed by the Baton Rouge people, and now some think that Baton Rouge should be thrown away? It fits.

I have no hate for the people in this area, far from it actually. I just find the throw away careless indifferent mentality to be as revolting as can be, and exactly why this city remains in its current condition, a mere reflection of the residents.

You want bad arse food? Vote for it. You want a clean city? Demand it. You want a great community? Stop building crap, and start supporting your own city, and don't tell me it's not their city, because it damn well is their city, as these are Baton Rougeans we are talking about here, not some put upon peoples with a name other than Baton Rouge. St. George is a made up name, pulled out of thin air from one singular Catholic Parish and Subdivision off Siegen, it's not a name any of these people have EVER given any thought to as being identified with. That's why it's founded in nonsense from the start. It's bullshite.








This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14565 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58857 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:29 am to
WTF is right. How is this concept remotely hard to grasp, especially when it's as old as the hills and people all over this country getting back to what really matters. But alas, BR pulling up the rear is the status quo.

Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2711 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:52 am to
Mike, I think you're just a dreamer man. Yea, what you say would be fine and dandy but if those changes haven't happened yet then they never will. Opponents to the incorporation of SE BR will run with the "why not try anf fix Baton Rouge" scam until they run out of breath. The honest truth is that people have been trying to fix it but when you have people like Kip in office it's really hard to see some positive results.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:55 am to
Mike, these would have been great solutions 20 years ago. We elected people who were either stupid, greedy, corrupt or lacked vision (or any combination). The time it would take to elect enough "good guys" to fix this, combined with the likelihood of results, makes this answer obsolete. I'm young, but I'll be long dead before that happens (just being realistic). Make no mistake, the primary issue to be had here is schools. The current EBRPSS needs to be scrapped. Completely overhauled. That's the only way you'll actually get buy in from the private school crowd with two kids, two working parents, and a lot of debt. No one is willing to sacrifice their child's education for the idealist hope of community. We lost Baton Rouge in elections that happened before I could vote. Still, we could salvage some great lessons there for St George. And hopefully, one day all the business dollars that live in BR will help bring forth a solution to the blight. There's no acceptable answer to be had with the "EBRPSS has potential" argument from the better together crowd. That dog won't hunt.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

It's pretty interesting, really. Baton rouge is in a position where they have to sell themselves to the citizens of St. George so that they won't leave.

They have (stubbornly) decided to do the exact opposite and call us racists.



exactly, shows you the types of minds in power in that city
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4153 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:05 am to
So is that really LSURussian? Lol if it is.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58857 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

thats an easy fix.....they will have to be better...something they do not have to be now.


How many St. George proponents would you say give a shite about investing in downtown, connecting downtown with LSU, thus creating a commercial area to build upon in stimulating the area for growth, both economic and in population density?

Very few, because most don't even think about their own downtown, rarely if ever go down there, and could care less what happens to it, which IS the problem.

The real people who need to be better are the very ones wanting to divide it and throw it away, and who don't invest in it, nor understand why that is even important, but all of whom bitch, whine, and complain that we need to attract business and industry to the area, and clean up the city. It's very much like the arm chain quarterbacks who sit in their living rooms watching the games and complaining about the lack of attendance at an LSU game or why people are leaving early, yet never stop to consider that they aren't doing anything themselves planted in their Living Room.

Want to see Baton Rouge get better? Invest in it. It's only a mirror reflection of the residents. When visitors drive through BR and look at the trash on the roads they don't say to themselves "wow, looks like the litter gremlin is putting it to Baton Rouge,". They say "Baton Rouge sure doesn't give a shite about its own city,." The same can be said for when they see missing guard rails everywhere, black grime an graffiti under our overpasses, interstate fences being taken back by Mother Nature because they're never maintained or trimmed, grass not cut, and shite everywhere. And hell, they haven't even gotten on the surface streets yet to experience the real disconnect. This is a mirror reflection of a people firmly stuck in a disconnected state with their own city, and it speaks volumes in all areas of this city to anyone paying the least bit of attention to it. For someone traveling through who isn't accustomed to seeing it day after day and has become numb to it as if it's normal, it speaks even louder and is more blatantly obvious, and when they travel down the road and see it's not reserved for just Baton Rouge but the outlying areas as well as parishes they get it. It's not jut past a Baton Rouge thing, but a regional problem and failure to give a shite.





Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:07 am to
quote:

No one is willing to sacrifice their child's education for the idealist hope of community.


@Mike Da Tigah......the above quoted is the money shot dude, I like your desire and passion to see what baton rouge could be/should be, but when you are talking about people's kids in the now, people simply are going to invest in the idealist hope of community, could BR be saved, possibly.....but nobody is willing to wait around on it
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:09 am to
SIAP but that is the child molester from Workaholics. I think his name is Topher.
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