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re: Texas A&M: A warning to petroleum engineering students

Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:04 am to
Do you people really think geoscientists only work in O&G?

My god. There are thousands of jobs throughout the country for geoscientists. I look at them weekly. Hell one could go make 80k/yr for the city of New York as a geoscientist, and they have multiple positions available. One could also go be a volcanologist in Hawaii for 72k/yr and they also have multiple slots to fill as well.

Point is, comparing the difference between Geoscientists and PETEs job outlook if the petroleum industry tanks is foolish.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:06 am to
Bingo

Know a geologist who is a multi multi millionaire doing mainly groundwater contamination stuff
Posted by abitabrewed4LSU
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2009
1078 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Goelogists are like PETE, they come and go with the O&G industry.


Lol. This is very dumb.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:22 am to
You guys win. The job market for geologists is insulated from ups and down in the O&G industry.

Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:22 am to
Welcome to geologists now.
Posted by abitabrewed4LSU
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2009
1078 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:26 am to
TigerHam85 is right. Mobility is better for geoscience.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:26 am to
quote:

Do you people really think geoscientists only work in O&G?
No, but when the price of oil tanks for a period of time preventing new drilling, geologists are generally the first to get let go.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8594 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:32 am to
False. Geologists are not the first to get let go. When prices go down the industry is forced to drill smarter, lower risk wells. Geologists are the driving force behind that approach. Middle management will get trimmed back before solid geologists and engineers.

Also
quote:

fracking tar sands

Doesnt really happen. Tight sands and shale get fracked. Not tar sands.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:33 am to
I was always told that the marketing department was first to go.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8594 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:34 am to
Depends on the structure of the company
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:35 am to
Agreed that if you are an established geologist you should be able to survive in down time. Also true that geologists aren't pigeon holed into oil & gas and have other options. However there is no way to disguise the fact that in times of a shitty oil industry, there will be less geologists entering the work force.
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:37 am to
they should do a similar warning for law students.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28323 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

volcanologist in Hawaii


That just sounds made up.

"Yep, it might blow. Or might not. Let's hit the beach and check on it later."


Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28917 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

by the time they graduate, 100K won't be a good salary anymore. Inflation sucks.


Yes, how will a recent grad survive on the meager salary of $100k?

Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29330 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:09 pm to
Does anyone know much about Tulane's energy management program? I was just looking into applying there for grad school, but now I am a little nervous. I am also curious about its value, considering the program is only a few years old. I just know one student who went from UT at TU for it, and he got a nice job in Houston.

I just want to get into the industry and don't have much experience. i just noticed the class overview, and the GMAT was surprisingly average (603 average) and the GPA was a 3.17
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43223 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:11 pm to
I was told by a couple O&G execs (friends) that its an aging workforce and tons of older guys are retiring in next 0-10 years.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 12:49 pm to
There are only so many true PETE jobs out there with operators. But, there is a ton of experience across the spectrum of "oilfield jobs" that is being lost due to retirement. They are hiring engineering degrees to replace them even though it's not a traditional engineering role. I took the place of a guy with 20 years of field experience. They hired him because he had experience. They hired me because of the engineering degree. Still make good money.

And as to the 500k salary, I doubt three levels of management above me clears that. Maybe sniffs it with stock and bonuses. But that's a big maybe. I'm shooting for 150k at 7 years. 250 at 15 years. That's my goal for my base salary.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49524 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

I was told by a couple O&G execs (friends) that its an aging workforce and tons of older guys are retiring in next 0-10 years.



EE's are the same. The power concentration especially. That's why I've focused on that area: bit of a lower starting pay than computer/communications, but much better job security and tons of chances for promotions over the next 10 years once the baby boomers pretty much HAVE to retire.
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:01 pm to
A lot of professions have that "it" job boom, which attracts a lot of people causing the profession to become oversaturated. In medicine, it was nurse anesthetist a few years ago. If you become a nurse anesthetist in this area now, you will have to move to get a job.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:04 pm to
Study nuclear fusion instead. All dat oil gonna be worthess in 10 years.
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