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re: Texas A&M: A warning to petroleum engineering students

Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:19 am to
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:19 am to
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Misguided in what way? They are just warning students that the job market will be competitive when these students graduate. I don't see an issue with that. I think it's a fair warning, and more universities should inform their new students with this kind of information.

I wish every school outside of the Ivy League sent warning letters like this to all incoming freshmen. This just seems narrowly tailored to a degree that has been rocking and rolling for a decade. It was bound to get saturated, but where's the letter for the English majors and kids going into debt for musical theatre degrees?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41723 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:19 am to
LSU's PETE program is the only PETE program in the entire country that has a real oil well facility on campus that those students work and study on. That has to help them get a job easier than students from other PETE programs out there. A cousin of mine is in the program at LSU and he says LSU is way ahead of Texas A&M with this program.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by Fat Neck
Member since Dec 2013
466 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:20 am to
GREENHEAD22

Arent you in other degree not PETE? How you know about waiting tables? How you know you wouldnt' "frick with college"

You seem very educated on subject so I figure I would like prediction on future oil price, job market, and the such before I begin my endevor for PETE degree
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29433 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:20 am to
Hats off to aTm for sending that letter. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making students aware of what they are getting themselves into before spending time and money on a degree.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52163 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:20 am to
Glad I graduated when I did back in '08.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:20 am to
Because they're the only ones who give a shite apparently
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97718 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:22 am to
Most of the guys I know graduated from 01-04, they've been absolutely killing it
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:22 am to
I am a Mechanical Engineer working in the O&G gas field. There are currently tons of jobs available, especially for those of us with a few yrs experience. If the graduation rates have risen as steadily as the enrollment rate it does spell problems for the future.

There is an explosion on freshmen enrolling into PETE. I'd be interested to know if the Graduation numbers have increased as steadily. The vast majority of students choosing an Engineering major will not finish it. This has always been the case.

I would encourage new students to take up Mechanical engineering, because it does offer opportunities outside of the O&G field. If petroleum is what you are after, get a M.E. ungrad, and PETE Masters degree. Seriously, it is extra schooling, but you would be set to go work for one of the majors.... and set for 6 figure starting salary.....

Also, as competition for entry level jobs increases the more importance will be placed on internships. Go after good industry experience. look into drilling companies that take interns and let them "roughneck, or roustabout" for the summer. The things you will learn on a rig will blow your mind... You will get an education you can't get interning in an office. -Hiring managers love it-
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48952 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:23 am to
LSU PETE program: Boosting the petroleum engineering talent pool
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With the predicted great crew change around the corner, the oil and gas industry continues to brace for a recruitment struggle in the years to come. The projected talent gap is even wider when it comes to petroleum engineers. The US Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts a startling 26% growth in the number of open petroleum engineer positions from 2012 to 2020. While oil and gas companies continue to launch their own initiatives to encourage STEM education and usher in the next generation of talent, one educational institution is also doing its part.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Fall 2003: 107
Fall 2004: 189
Fall 2005: 193
Fall 2006: 240
Fall 2007: 302
Fall 2008: 345
Fall 2009: 393
Fall 2010: 458
Fall 2011: 534
Fall 2012: 777
Fall 2013: 902


That is full of tard.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:25 am to
Thanks for this. I'm currently studying PETE, but I can't let stuff like this discourage me. However, it is nice to know what my competition is.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:25 am to
quote:

I'd be interested to know if the Graduation numbers have increased as steadily.

quote:

Petroleum Engineering BS Degrees
Academic Year Degrees Awarded
2003-2004: 18
2004-2005: 28
2005-2006: 38
2006-2007: 22
2007-2008: 41
2008-2009: 32
2009-2010: 59
2010-2011: 64
2011-2012: 75
2012-2013: 77


Edit: looks like about 20-25% finish their degree. That probably won't change too much.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:27 am
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Most of the guys I know graduated from 01-04, they've been absolutely killing it


anybody who has about 4+ yrs in industry right now is killing it. The last decade +/- has been a great time to graduate as an engineer. (with exception to those graduating just after the deep sea horizon accident. Although, I think they still found jobs, just a little harder.)
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
694 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:29 am to
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quote:I'd be interested to know if the Graduation numbers have increased as steadily. quote:Petroleum Engineering BS Degrees Academic Year Degrees Awarded 2003-2004: 18 2004-2005: 28 2005-2006: 38 2006-2007: 22 2007-2008: 41 2008-2009: 32 2009-2010: 59 2010-2011: 64 2011-2012: 75 2012-2013: 77


so, enrollment increased approximately 900%, and graduation #s increased approximately 300%. Doesn't sound so bleak when you look at it that way.

Lots of people want the money, but won't put in the work to get it done....
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14037 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

graduation #s increased approximately 300%


What about when you look at this way?
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:32 am to
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so, enrollment increased approximately 900%, and graduation #s increased approximately 300%. Doesn't sound so bleak when you look at it that way.


I wouldn't say that. You should be looking at graduates who started 4/5 years earlier. The enrollment numbers from 2003-2008 roughly correlate to the graduation numbers from 2008-2013. Both close to 300% increase.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:33 am
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97718 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:32 am to
I'm talking about 500k+ killing it
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

I'm talking about 500k+ killing it


I think your buddies are full of shite.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:35 am to


500k+ sounds extremely high.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:36 am to
Not at all

I know several guys making that
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:37 am
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