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re: Sweden Trying Out 6 Hour Work Days

Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:43 pm to
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lsupride87


That's the only thing I can really think of

As far as actually quality of life (active lifestyle, drinking,eating, partying) , I'd side with Europe.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Would you get more work done if you were given a six hour work day than an 8, 10, or 12?


Absolutely. If I had an incentive to go home a little bit early I'd work hard as frick and get lots of shite done.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:43 pm to
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I don't know if this is entirely true.
It is very true. If you go into a Euro home and they have a master suite bathroom and granite in their kitchens, they are prolly royalty
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:44 pm to
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And Northern Sweden is pointless to talk about unless you consider Alaskan weather American as well




Do you even geography?
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:45 pm to
You are right about the white and blue collar thing. It's not a perfect work scenario. If one schedule was perfect then there would be no reason for the tons of different types of schedules. Of course it's gonna matter as far as what type of job you are employed for
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Do you even geography?
Northern Sweden is barely lived in. Just as Alaska, or North Dakota is here. So to use one of those places as the barometer of either of the countries weather is pointless
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:47 pm to
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I don't know if this is entirely true.


In a typical house, you think that European households have the same finishes as American households? From personal experience, I can only speak on what I've seen in Italy, but it wasn't up to par with America. (Not that I really care or think that it is a bad thing).
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:47 pm to
Gotcha. I'm guessing most Euro homes go for the minimalist lifestyle.



Also, is it Sweden or Spain that adopted the one month of vacation time policy?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:48 pm to
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Northern Sweden is barely lived in


Your original statement very much implied a comparison in weather rather than population.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Gotcha. I'm guessing most Euro homes go for the minimalist lifestyle.



Also, is it Sweden or Spain that adopted the one month of vacation time policy?
That is all of Eurpope. In the Swedish household i lived in, this was a typical day for the Dad. Wake up at 8, leave for work around 9. Come back home for lunch at about 11:30-1:00. Be back from work around 3:30-4. I wondered how anything got done, UNTIL i went to a McDonald's and saw the efficiency in which EVERYONE works.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:51 pm to
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You mean, theyre not busy playing keeping up with the Joneses and upgrading to soapstone or concrete because granite is soooo 2008?



Guess we know who still has granite
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:53 pm to
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Your original statement very much implied a comparison in weather rather than population.
My original statement implied it makes no sense to judge Swedish weather by Northern Sweden, just as it makes no sense to judge American weather by Alaska. I didnt mention geography or population, as i thought it would be understood population was the driving factor. Clearly it wasnt
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:55 pm to
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No link but I'm pretty sure Sweden has a better standard of living than Murica.


SOL has a lot more built into it.

The rich is the US have it better than anywhere else in the world. On average, the Nordic region is a much better SOL for the average person though.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 3:55 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:56 pm to
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The rich is the US have it better than anywhere else in the world. On average, the Nordic region is a much better SOL for the average person though.
Correct.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:57 pm to
That schedule is similar to a friend of mine who's working in Spain right now. Besides the going back home for lunch part. It would be an interesting social experiment to see how many people would want the 1 month of vacation policy. I tend to believe that it would be met with some hostility at first.

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I wondered how anything got done, UNTIL i went to a McDonald's and saw the efficiency in which EVERYONE works.

I'm guessing the milkshake machine doesn't magically stop working after 8pm over there.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I have been to Sweden
Cool. Me too. I was born in northern Europe
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I would say without a doubt their lifestyle and quality of life is better than we have it.
I disagree strongly.
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There is a reason the Scandinavian countries are always the top for quality of life
They're not. The United States is tied for first with Austria according to the most recent HDI IIRC. The only time Scandinavian countries top these lists is when they include bullshite things like air quality and obesity rates.

Quality of life to me refers to material availability and the purchasing power of individuals. The average Swede may have some nice government-provided amenities but they do not have anywhere approaching the purchasing power of an average American.

They're a small, fairly homogeneous country. They've found a way to basically sustain economic mediocrity through socialism and have thus hampered upward mobility, innovation, and competition.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:00 pm to
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Absolutely. If I had an incentive to go home a little bit early I'd work hard as frick and get lots of shite done


So if you knew you were required by law to only work six hours a day how would that incentive you to get more work done?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:00 pm to
I've spent some time in the Nordic area and they are transparent that "there are not a lot of super rich nor super poor people" here. They are all about mitigating the extremes through taxes and government programs. The poliboard is a better place to discuss why it works for them.

However, I think that my style of work schedule is what the US will eventually migrate to. I work pretty much whenever I need to so that a task is completed. Flexibility is what the US will move to. Being available close to 7 days a week, but going away from the standard 8 hr work week. Personally, I love it and have a hard time imagining working a 8-5 gig 5 days a week. I rather work 50-60 hour weeks with tons of flexibility.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:04 pm to
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However, I think that my style of work schedule is what the US will eventually migrate to. I work pretty much whenever I need to so that a task is completed. Flexibility is what the US will move to. Being available close to 7 days a week, but going away from the standard 8 hr work week. Personally, I love it and have a hard time imagining working a 8-5 gig 5 days a week. I rather work 50-60 hour weeks with tons of flexibility.





That's great if your an engineer or a lawyer or consultant or something where you can just push through your current project until it's done and then cruise while waiting for the next. 99.9999999999% of jobs do not and cannot and will never allow that flexibility.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:05 pm to
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I didnt mention geography or population, as i thought it would be understood population was the driving factor.


Based on what you originally responded to, and where you took this line of discussion, I don't have the strength to continue.

Yes, population is the most important factor in comparing the climate of two parts of a country. It was stupid of me to bring geography into the mix when discussing the weather of a country that rests on a latitude equal to Northern Canada.

Carry on.
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