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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:41 am to CAD703X
Hey, have you seen that CAD703X guy?
What a douche.
What a douche.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:48 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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I care. I would rather the government (and eventually hackers) not have the ability to break into my phone whenever they want.
I am one of those people who don't give a frick.
If it means they'll catch the real bad guys then go for it.
They can dig away through my pics of nekkid skanks and sexts and lengthy negotiations with ex wives over kids' school,schedules,practices.
The perception of liberty is subjective whereas Quoting Ben Franklin to apply to 2016 is stupid and that's not subjective.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 8:50 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:48 am to Scruffy
Chisholm v Georgia (1793) indicates the Preamble influences Constitutional interpretation.
You are more right than am I in this issue.
You are more right than am I in this issue.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:49 am to BuckeyeFan87
If the government can hack the security of the phone and get the information ofg, that's fine and dandy.
The government legally compelling a company to dilute their security to the point of it not being secure at all is absolute garbage. If the company wants to help of it's own accord, that's fine, being forced to do it through a judge is bullshite in a supposed free state.
Every police organization is waiting on this backdoor to be created, one DA came out and said they have 175 phones waiting on the results of this case.
The government legally compelling a company to dilute their security to the point of it not being secure at all is absolute garbage. If the company wants to help of it's own accord, that's fine, being forced to do it through a judge is bullshite in a supposed free state.
Every police organization is waiting on this backdoor to be created, one DA came out and said they have 175 phones waiting on the results of this case.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:49 am to Spirit of Dunson
Americans didn't learn shite from the Snowden debacle
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:51 am to SuperSaint
Did the German engineers write an open letter to the world when the British cracked the enigma machine?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:54 am to soccerfüt
quote:I'm not saying it doesn't influence it. It does. It gives some idea as to the writers' motivations.
Chisholm v Georgia (1793) indicates the Preamble influences Constitutional interpretation.
It just has no legal authority and does not grant the government any powers.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:54 am to mikelbr
quote:This to me.
I am one of those people who don't give a frick.
If it means they'll catch the real bad guys then go for it.
If folks want to embark on some Quixotic journey to zealously defend the rights of the little guys against the intrusion of Big Brother in this complex age, knock yourselves out.
It's (for me) simply Risk:Reward
Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:58 am to Dam Guide
I guess I don't understand why people want to make this such a big issue right now. Justifiable warrants have overridden civil liberties for hundreds of years, yet now people want to take a stand.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:08 am to slackster
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I guess I don't understand why people want to make this such a big issue right now. Justifiable warrants have overridden civil liberties for hundreds of years, yet now people want to take a stand.
But never before has so many dick-pics been at stake!
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:29 am to mikelbr
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I am one of those people who don't give a frick. If it means they'll catch the real bad guys then go for it.
Until their agenda makes you the bad guy.
People assume that because they've lived their lives to this point with pacifier up their arse, things can't change in an instant.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:54 am to soccerfüt
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It's (for me) simply Risk:Reward
EXACTLY. And the risk here is enormous. They aren't looking for ONE phone to be hacked. They want a universal key and that makes the request unacceptable. As another poster pointed out, if they can do it themselves then fine but the precedent of ordering a company to create technology across a universally held device makes this a bigger issue.*
*Pointing out that cell phones are in their own category given that everyone carries one now. This is to head off the people that will whip out an example where this has happened with some obscure item or tech that 99% of the population doesn't have and isn't affected by. Zoning requiring a Knox Box on a locked entrance gate for a private residence comes to mind.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:56 am to jbgleason
Apple is a disgrace by not complying.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:02 am to Spirit of Dunson
WTF would I be doing with my phone,computer,tablet,that I am afraid for the FBI to look at?Nothing.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:10 am to BuckeyeFan87
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Until their agenda makes you the bad guy.
By the time having pics of nekkid skanks and texting a chick I wanna "suck your breakfast out your butthole" is illegal, I should be dead and gone.
Other than that, all I have is normal banter and pics of my kids doing stupid shite and sports/dance.
Nothing to hide here.
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WTF would I be doing with my phone,computer,tablet,that I am afraid for the FBI to look at?Nothing.
Exactly. They aren't digging and reading shite. Their algorithms are listening/scanning text for key words/phrases that could threaten national security. People are stupid.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:13 am to mikelbr
Has this really devolved to the "I have nothing to hide so it is OK" phase?
Serious question, would you be OK with warrantless searches of homes by police on a regular basis? Because I bet we could seriously impact crime levels if we started that. Everyone is for reduced crime right? And you aren't doing anything illegal in your home and have nothing to hide, right? So why not?
Serious question, would you be OK with warrantless searches of homes by police on a regular basis? Because I bet we could seriously impact crime levels if we started that. Everyone is for reduced crime right? And you aren't doing anything illegal in your home and have nothing to hide, right? So why not?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:18 am to auggie
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WTF would I be doing with my phone,computer,tablet,that I am afraid for the FBI to look at?Nothing.
Congrats...you just nailed down my grandmother's reasoning for why my Dad should have never had his bedroom door closed while growing up...
I mean...why have it closed if you're not doing anything wrong, right?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:21 am to jbgleason
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erious question, would you be OK with warrantless searches of homes by police on a regular basis? Because I bet we could seriously impact crime levels if we started that. Everyone is for reduced crime right? And you aren't doing anything illegal in your home and have nothing to hide, right? So why not?
Walton and Johnson fan aren't you?
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