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Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:45 am to armytiger96
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St. George isn’t a community it’s a group of suburban neighborhoods that are part of Baton Rouge just not within the defined city limits. To act like it’s a separate community is completely disingenuous.
What better definition of "community" could you come up with than a group of like-minded people with similar goals who live outside of the city's border working within the law to establish their own municipality?
The St. George proponents are better described as "hostages" than members of the Baton Rouge "community" at this point.
If you haven't left these dysfunctional cities, it's really time to start thinking about it. Many of us who can earn a living, read a book, and tie our shoes have already seen the writing on the wall and decided that these places are not conducive for raising healthy families. There isn't going to be a mass influx of affluent, responsible people into the city limits of BR, NOLA, Shreveport, etc. in your lifetime. Forces larger than you and your vote are at work.
You don't even need a hankering for rural or suburban life to act on this conclusion. I drive across the causeway all the time to eat/drink/socialize/shop in NOLA. It's worth the 30 minute drive to not have my truck widows bashed out at night or see crackheads wandering around on my street.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 10:55 am to Tigerlaff
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The St. George proponents are better described as "hostages" than members of the Baton Rouge "community" at this point.
For a bunch of liberal haters, y’all seem to play the victim card quite frequently here.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:17 am to Tigerlaff
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What better definition of "community" could you come up with than a group of like-minded people with similar goals who live outside of the city's border working within the law to establish their own municipality?
“Community “. That’s just a faux argument.
It’s not a legal term. It means nothing. Politicians use it when they are at a loss for words. SWB is a master at using “community” to sell her agenda for instance.
Besides, does anyone really believe Baton Rouge is a “community”? Baton Rouge is a city, but it’s a melting pot. It’s been that way for decades. Anybody that has lived here knows that.
There’s neighborhood pride in certain areas. Look at Southdowns, The Garden District, and old Goodwood for examples. I’m sure there are others, but not all BR is one “community”.
Using the argument that only communities can form a city has no legal or practical basis.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:43 am to armytiger96
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St. George isn’t a community it’s a group of suburban neighborhoods that are part of Baton Rouge just not within the defined city limits.
It can't be a part of Baton Rouge and also not in the city limits.
That's not how it works.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 11:59 am to BeepNode
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The Central and Zachary efforts faced similar opposition in the courts.
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No they did not. The city of Central was fairly easy to pass and get established. The city of Zachary was incorporated in 1889.
The City of Central lost in trial court same as St. George. Then won on Appeals.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:07 pm to lsu13lsu
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The City of Central lost in trial court same as St. George. Then won on Appeals.
The First Circuit held oral arguments on the Central case at the LSU Law Center.
The City of Central case reaffirmed that the restriction in the EBR Charter against incorporation of new municipalities was voided by the 74 Constitution.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:43 pm to LSULaw2009
LINK
From the last paragraph, if the St. George incorporators were to say we will drop the city in exchange for the school district, who would say no. I think the SG organizers would be happy with that compromise, but EBRPSS would go ballistic and kill it quickly.
From the last paragraph, if the St. George incorporators were to say we will drop the city in exchange for the school district, who would say no. I think the SG organizers would be happy with that compromise, but EBRPSS would go ballistic and kill it quickly.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:45 pm to TigerAlumni2010
Any such agreement is dependent on the legislature and senate funding the ISD.
Anyone thinking this happens is insane given that Sloth has been handing out plum jobs to buy off senators who don’t show up to override his veto.
Anyone thinking this happens is insane given that Sloth has been handing out plum jobs to buy off senators who don’t show up to override his veto.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:48 pm to cyarrr
This.
The city and parish are merged but the areas outside city limits aren’t considered in BR.
If BR wanted these areas to be in the city, they should have annexed them.
Them not doing so is a mix of not wanting these areas in the city because they are required to provide services (BRPD and BRFD) and because annexing any areas of significance in population risk a Voting Rights Act challenge flaming dilution of the minority vote.
If they can’t or won’t annex these areas, they shouldn’t be able to block them from incorporation.
The city and parish are merged but the areas outside city limits aren’t considered in BR.
If BR wanted these areas to be in the city, they should have annexed them.
Them not doing so is a mix of not wanting these areas in the city because they are required to provide services (BRPD and BRFD) and because annexing any areas of significance in population risk a Voting Rights Act challenge flaming dilution of the minority vote.
If they can’t or won’t annex these areas, they shouldn’t be able to block them from incorporation.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:03 pm to tigersbb
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Just curious- how can a judge determine a city can’t balance a budget when it has not yet tried to do so?
Right? That shouldn't even be part of the case. It should be whether or not St. George followed the law to get incorporated.
ETA: Need St George to pass because I'm going to spearhead separating the Mayor of BR from Parish president. All areas aren't getting equal treatment right now.
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:12 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Gotta love courts thinking they know better than the people
That's literally what the courts were made for.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 1:19 pm to foj1981
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St George defeated
Not Even Close
Posted on 6/1/22 at 2:50 pm to BeepNode
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No they did not. The city of Central was fairly easy to pass and get established.
No it wasn’t. There was legal opposition and a court battle also.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 3:30 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Not Even Close
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