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re: Spinoff: engineers vs. PE's
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:07 pm to Croacka
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:07 pm to Croacka
quote:Yeah, I certainly wouldn't use it as a differentiator for hiring the best engineer, unless the PE was legally required for the position.
I know a few PE's that make me wonder how the hell they got licensed
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:08 pm to Road Tiger
A TRUE engineer is one who has a stamp. All others are pretenders.
No such thing as:
Environmental
Mud
Sanitation etc
No such thing as:
Environmental
Mud
Sanitation etc
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:12 pm to Croacka
quote:
SE is how I sign my emails
SE means structural engineer, which you need a certificate for. I know you were just making a joke but I wanted to be a buzz Killington.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:12 pm to Scrowe
quote:
Shows you know nothing of a refinery and what they classify as an engineer, and shows more that you just want to stir shite up with oil jobs.
Not stirring anything up my friend just wanted to see what you folks thought
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to joeleblanc
quote:
A TRUE engineer is one who has a stamp.
So a B.A. in engineering doesn't make you an engineer? If that was the case why can't engineers just skip ahead to the open book test and be done with it?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to joeleblanc
i am a PE and I can tell you this, all i give a frick about is my paycheck not what people want to call themselves or have on their business card
this is like people bitching about what other people are wearing... it's tired
this is like people bitching about what other people are wearing... it's tired
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to OldHickory
quote:
And still, neither knows how to drive a goddamn train.
I can stear one......... So There's that.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to joeleblanc
quote:
A TRUE engineer is one who has a stamp. All others are pretenders. No such thing as: Environmental Mud Sanitation etc
An environmental engineer can't get a stamp?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:15 pm to Road Tiger
quote:
Not stirring anything up my friend just wanted to see what you folks thought
Gotcha
Well a refinery isn't a place where they just slap the title of engineer on someone, you have to have a degree to be an engineer there. With the exception of being old as dirt and being grandfathered in
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:19 pm to TexasTiger01
quote:
PMP certification
Teets on a BULL
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:21 pm to TexasTiger34
It's mostly the lawyers
Lawyers at bigger companies are very picky about the word and who can use it
Lawyers at bigger companies are very picky about the word and who can use it
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:49 pm to TexasTiger01
quote:
They gonna get so mad..... All dem P.E. folks .... Making shite salaries and the oil and gas folks bringing home the bacon
ETA: until oil hit 48 a barrel...unless they have an ME or PE degree
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:54 pm to Road Tiger
As a fairly fresh ChemE grad debating whether to pursue a PE or not, this thread hasn't been very helpful :(
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:54 pm to Road Tiger
By law, you are not an "engineer" unless you are a PE. It is the only way you can be bonded.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:57 pm to weedGOKU666
Tell me this...
What are the negatives of getting a PE?
What are the negatives of getting a PE?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:58 pm to Croacka
None? You have to pay $300 for the test, then buy your license for each state.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:05 pm to AUCE05
Any decent employer will pay for all of that
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:09 pm to Croacka
Well I already do stuff for my job, and studying for the PE would just be MORE stuff to do and ugh
Plus I've basically been told up to this point that a PE doesn't do much for ChemEs, specifically
Plus I've basically been told up to this point that a PE doesn't do much for ChemEs, specifically
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:10 pm to Road Tiger
I get called an engineer by my employer and he bills for me as a senior engineer. I never took the EIT or FIT or PE tests of any sort. My immediate supervisor is a PE in many states and is a director at the company. He hired me after I reviewed a ton of his people's documents and calculations...he signs the end product, I work as an 'engineer'. I produce analyses and review other engineers' from the company. I'd rather be a scientist, but being an 'engineer' pays more.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:11 pm to Road Tiger
I kinda view the PE as letting me know that whoever took the time and effort to get their license at least gave enough of a shite to take the time and effort to get their license. Someone said all that it means is that someone took two more open book tests than they did, but at least they gave a half a frick and bothered to take and pass those two simple open book tests.
As to competency, I don't think that it really indicates a whole hell of a lot one way or another. Good and bad engineers both come with licenses and without.
Now, if a PE is actually affixing a seal and signing it, that's a different story than just just having the license. At that point someone actually starts using the license, I take it for granted that whoever affixed and signed knows what the hell they're doing simply because of the strict liability they just accepted.
As to competency, I don't think that it really indicates a whole hell of a lot one way or another. Good and bad engineers both come with licenses and without.
Now, if a PE is actually affixing a seal and signing it, that's a different story than just just having the license. At that point someone actually starts using the license, I take it for granted that whoever affixed and signed knows what the hell they're doing simply because of the strict liability they just accepted.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 6:15 pm
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