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re: Spinoff: engineers vs. PE's
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No you can't. You're not an engineer without a PE
So if you have a bachelors of science in engineering from an accredited university you can't say you are an engineer? Guess I've been doing it wrong. What should I call myself?
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 9:54 pm to LSUEEAlum
Legally, no.
I call myself an engineer because that's what my check says on it, and that's what the president of the company told me I was.
But if you live life following the rules word for word, yes you have been doing it wrong. I'm not sure what you legally are if you have an engineering degree and have not passed the FE exam. I guess an intern
I call myself an engineer because that's what my check says on it, and that's what the president of the company told me I was.
But if you live life following the rules word for word, yes you have been doing it wrong. I'm not sure what you legally are if you have an engineering degree and have not passed the FE exam. I guess an intern
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:18 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Legally, no. I call myself an engineer because that's what my check says on it, and that's what the president of the company told me I was.
Yup, and your clients agree to pay engineering rates based on the services that you provide them. You don't need a P.E. or a bachelors to be considered and engineer in your industry. I worked as a Project Engineer earlier in my career, I have an Associates in Mechanical Sciences along with a ton of other specialized schooling. No bachelors or P.E. here....
To the poster that was looking for advice coming out of college with an engineering degree; pursue a P.E. if it's appropriate for the career path you desire. If you want to manage projects, consult, work at the project level; a P.E. is probably not going to help you much. If you want to design, revise, etc. then maybe you should look into getting your P.E.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:22 am to Road Tiger
real engineers drive trains
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:47 am to Scrowe
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They proved they could regurgitate information from a book for a test, nothing more or less.
There's little or no regurgitation ...
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 7:47 am
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:52 am to Scrowe
quote:
So a B.A. in engineering doesn't make you an engineer?
Nope
quote:
If that was the case why can't engineers just skip ahead to the open book test and be done with it?
Because you must have a degree in engineering from an accredited university and 4 years of experience in addition to passing the test.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:09 pm to Scrowe
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So a B.A. in engineering doesn't make you an engineer
Does a BA in architecture make you an architect?
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:33 pm to joeleblanc
Having the title of engineer and being an engineer with a state license are two different things.
You can start a business in the tire industry and call yourself the king of tires, but that doesn't actually mean you are royalty. Same for engineers in title only.
You can start a business in the tire industry and call yourself the king of tires, but that doesn't actually mean you are royalty. Same for engineers in title only.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:37 pm to Dam Guide
Dam Engineer?
Posted on 1/19/15 at 9:59 pm to LSUEEAlum
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So if you have a bachelors of science in engineering from an accredited university you can't say you are an engineer? Guess I've been doing it wrong. What should I call myself?
EI or EIT are what is usually used on most business cards or correspondence for people in the trade who have not gotten their license yet.
Honestly it's not very well enforced and the only entity you can get in hot water with in LA is LAPELS, which, if you have no intention of getting a license can't really do anything to you but send a cease and desist and levy a fine you'll never be forced to pay. I guess it's possible they could sue you but I think that is pretty rare.
Most states require licensure to offer Engineering services and/or use the word "Engineer" in your title. Some states that's as simple as paying a fee (TX) and other states require experience and testing.
Can you do the same calculations a licensed engineer does without a license? Of course. Is it technically illegal to do 75mph in a 70mph zone? Yes, but people do it all the time.
Where this really comes into play is if there is a problem and there is legal action or you need coverage from an E&O policy (Errors and Omissions). If you're doing Engineering work and aren't licensed and have no E&O policy you place yourself in a very risky position.
The guy who stamped off on the Hyatt Regency skywalk design did some jail time so it is the real deal. If you did the calcs, licensed or not, you'll be on the hook if things do not go well.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:08 pm to Road Tiger
So all you engineers spent 4+ years in college and not sure if you are really an engineer or not?
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:15 pm to captainahab
Really the difference is, without a PE license, one can't present oneself to the public as an Engineer.... Or be responsible for work required by law to be sealed by an engineer.
Otherwise it's (engineer) just a title.
Otherwise it's (engineer) just a title.
Posted on 1/19/15 at 10:29 pm to joeleblanc
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A TRUE engineer is one who has a stamp. All others are pretenders.
No such thing as:
Environmental
Mud
Sanitation etc
Well you can get a stamp for environmental, soooo you are wrong.
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