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re: Spinoff: engineers vs. PE's
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:11 pm to TexasTiger01
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:11 pm to TexasTiger01
I knew a young petroleum engineer at Global Santa Fe whose business card read First Last, PE. When I questioned him about it he said that he was a petroleum engineer and it was ok to have that on his card. Oh lawdy. 
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:23 pm to TexasTiger01
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Based on 2010 survey findings from the National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE), licensed engineers make an annual median salary of $99,000, while those with no license or professional certification earn $94,000 a year.
To be fair, this is not all telling. Civil engineers are really the only ones with PEs
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:32 pm to jimbeam
While they may have the most by a good bit, I work with many other discipline folks that are licensed
Lots of EE and ME's
Not as many ChE
Lots of EE and ME's
Not as many ChE
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:06 pm to Road Tiger
Apostrophe.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:24 pm to Gaston
And that would be illegal if he stamps your work without working through the problem. And you are not, by law, an engineer. If your company is ever taken to court, and you are claiming to be an engineer without actually being one, you could be in serious trouble. Like, spend time in jail trouble.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:33 pm to AUCE05
Well no shite. I am not by law an engineer (I do have a degree on my wall from LSU in engineering though...so it's not that much of a stretch) meaning I can not sign off on analyses as the PE.
I graduated in physics, did ME graduate research, got an MS (thesis based) in EE and due to the combination of education and lack of normal design type engineering knowledge I have been pushed to the fringes of engineering. I do the analyses that normal engineers say WTF to. I quit my job last year to join up this PE so I could work where my analyses get critically reviewed. It's been nice.
Doing an analysis on a pressure builder that was 'damaged' in a fire. fricking hardness meters...
I graduated in physics, did ME graduate research, got an MS (thesis based) in EE and due to the combination of education and lack of normal design type engineering knowledge I have been pushed to the fringes of engineering. I do the analyses that normal engineers say WTF to. I quit my job last year to join up this PE so I could work where my analyses get critically reviewed. It's been nice.
Doing an analysis on a pressure builder that was 'damaged' in a fire. fricking hardness meters...
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:36 pm to Gaston
He is a PE in fire protection?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:39 pm to AUCE05
You can call yourself an engineer if you have an ABET accredited bachelors degree in engineering. It doesn't count if that is engineering technology.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:40 pm to AUCE05
Fire protection? No he's a fracture mechanics slash materials ME guru that does all sorts of remaining life analyses and fitness for service type jobs.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:43 pm to TigerBandTuba
No you can't. It is the same concept as medical doctors. You have to be licensed before you can call yourself an engineer. I have given depositions, as a PE, and as an EIT.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:46 pm to TigerBandTuba
No you can't. You're not an engineer without a PE
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:48 pm to Road Tiger
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non degreed engineers
I had no idea these existed. But they can call themselves whatever they want and I really don't care.
My father never got his P.E. and is one of the most highly sought after consulting engineers in his industry. He considers the P.E. exam to be bureaucratic silliness that has little to do with the actual skill of the engineer. I've found this to be true as well.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:50 pm to Tigris
There are a shitpile of business cards out there that say engineer on them and belong to somebody without any college education.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:52 pm to joeleblanc
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A TRUE engineer is one who has a stamp. All others are pretenders.
bullshite.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:52 pm to Tigris
You have no idea what you are talking about
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:55 pm to AUCE05
I pay extra for the PE stamp...no PE stamp, Don' consider
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:56 pm to AUCE05
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You have no idea what you are talking about
Um, I've been a consulting engineer for a couple of decades. Nobody cares about the PE. It's your actual skill that becomes apparent very quickly.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:56 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I graduated in ChemE two and a half years ago and have been working as a process engineering associate for an upstream oil and gas design/consulting firm. At least half of the guys in the process department have their PE, and I will attempt to get mine this fall.
From what I have seen in my short career, clients are requiring more deliverables to be sealed that normally weren't in the past. For my company, basically everything that goes out the door to a client needs to be sealed now, including process engineering deliverables. So a PE definitely makes you much more valuable than someone who doesn't have it.
I think a major factor is whether you're in consulting or not.
From what I have seen in my short career, clients are requiring more deliverables to be sealed that normally weren't in the past. For my company, basically everything that goes out the door to a client needs to be sealed now, including process engineering deliverables. So a PE definitely makes you much more valuable than someone who doesn't have it.
I think a major factor is whether you're in consulting or not.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 7:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No you can't. You're not an engineer without a PE
I didn't mean officially. What do people with engineering degrees who aren't PEs say they do when people ask? They aren't allowed to say "I'm an engineer"?
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