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re: Should state colleges cap their tuition and fees?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:56 pm to Forkbeard3777
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:56 pm to Forkbeard3777
I looked into getting a specialized degree in a field that I really enjoyed, but there were only three schools in the country that offered it. Average out of state tuition was $41k/yr. I said frick that and am going for a much more general degree in state because it only costs me $7k/yr
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:01 pm to Forkbeard3777
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This is definitely the case. My first semester at lsu I paid 3000. This semester I paid 5100
Did your hours drastically differ?
For example, the first semester = 12 hours and the last semester = 18 hours?
Yeah, if that example is accurate, it is a great example of the bullshite these public institutions are pulling. No wonder LSU is claiming poverty.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:08 pm to Forkbeard3777
FWIW, I just graduated from LSU in 7 semesters (one less than 4 years). I had the highest level of TOPS and an additional honors scholarship on top of it. I took some loans to pay for the difference between that and the cost of my housing and fraternity. I now have $25k in loans to pay back. There's no way a student entering the university near the top of the class should owe that much after finishing school in less than average time
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:26 pm to Forkbeard3777
When you remove competition and fiscal responsibility (profit and loss) from the marketplace, you get we have:
State universities who continually raise tuition and fees, because really, what are you going to do?
Hell, they can't even control the scam that is college textbooks.
State universities who continually raise tuition and fees, because really, what are you going to do?
Hell, they can't even control the scam that is college textbooks.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:31 pm to Forkbeard3777
Higher ed - an outrageously expensive product of frequently dubious value
Exhibit A as an example of what the govt does for you!
When the cost containment motive is eliminated by govt involvement this is what you get.
You don't need every whizbang trendy gizmo or overpaid "name" profs who slough off all the instructional work on nobody TAs anyway to teach people.
At this point higher ed for a lot of the pointless degrees is like getting papers on a dog, doesn't make the dog better, just pricier.
Exhibit A as an example of what the govt does for you!
When the cost containment motive is eliminated by govt involvement this is what you get.
You don't need every whizbang trendy gizmo or overpaid "name" profs who slough off all the instructional work on nobody TAs anyway to teach people.
At this point higher ed for a lot of the pointless degrees is like getting papers on a dog, doesn't make the dog better, just pricier.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:38 pm to H.M. Murdock
It's also a public investment in future earning capacity and banking that the net return through higher income taxes and better educated workforce will far exceed the cost of providing the education.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:44 pm to Forkbeard3777
Do B1G schools not teach economics? Price ceilings are not the answer.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 6:53 pm to Upperdecker
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FWIW, I just graduated from LSU in 7 semesters (one less than 4 years). I had the highest level of TOPS and an additional honors scholarship on top of it. I took some loans to pay for the difference between that and the cost of my housing and fraternity. I now have $25k in loans to pay back. There's no way a student entering the university near the top of the class should owe that much after finishing school in less than average time
You took loans to pay for fraternity dues and you are bitching about them?
Posted on 8/19/15 at 7:04 pm to H.M. Murdock
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You want to attend college? Pay for it yourself. It is ultimately an investment in yourself. If you incur huge student loans and can not pay them....to bad, you made a bad investment. Personal Responsibility
Most likely a baby boomer
Posted on 8/19/15 at 7:05 pm to yellowfin
Too many people go to college. Demand up, pricing up. It isn't hard to figure out.
Posted on 8/19/15 at 7:41 pm to The First Cut
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Do B1G schools not teach economics?
You fricking clod. You think supply and demand is the ultimate issue here?This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 8/19/15 at 7:45 pm to glassman
Too many colleges and too many people getting degrees have devalued those degrees
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:07 am to GetCocky11
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The state of higher education in America really isn't that black and white at this point. It is a bit more complex.
I disagree. There is a very easy way to be successful and find a good paying job. All anyone has to do is major in one of the top 20 paying majors, make good grades, and work hard when they get out. I can guarantee you success if you take these steps.
Now if you major in one of the top 20 lowest paying jobs and you get in debt to do this, life will not be as easy.
Very simple
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:21 am to Forkbeard3777
Price controls never work.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 6:18 am to Upperdecker
You have 25k in loans over 3.5 years? Thats a little over 7 grand a year. Realizing my fraternity costs were about 2500 a year (without living there), that means you had 4500 a year left over. So you lived for 2250 a semester which covered books, food, housing, fees, bar money, etc. Sounds pretty damned cheap to me. You think it should have been given to you because you made the highest level of Tops? I didn't try at all in school and got the highest level of Tops. I did not deserve some full ride scholarship, although LA Tech offered me 7k in addition to Tops. So I had options to go for free, but wanted LSU. So I made that choice and paid the extra to do it.
Tops helps us. And if we lost that here, I would say it would hurt us badly. But I'm all for schools charging what they want. People complaining that they are out of luck if their degree is inly offered at the flagship school and its too expensive need to realize life isnt fair. You may have to take out loans if you want it badly enough. I know that's harsh, but so is life. Yes they are public institutions, but they are not charity organizations.
Tops helps us. And if we lost that here, I would say it would hurt us badly. But I'm all for schools charging what they want. People complaining that they are out of luck if their degree is inly offered at the flagship school and its too expensive need to realize life isnt fair. You may have to take out loans if you want it badly enough. I know that's harsh, but so is life. Yes they are public institutions, but they are not charity organizations.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 6:23 am to KG6
Losing TOPS would hurt but the requirements to get it should be raised drastically
Posted on 8/20/15 at 7:10 am to H.M. Murdock
All modern college is save for a few fields is another tool to control the masses by the government and those in power. The rich get richer and the rest are screwed.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:57 am to Forkbeard3777
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You fricking clod. You think supply and demand is the ultimate issue here?
Who said anything about supply and demand? Price ceilings cause alternate rationing devices. If universities can't chanre equilibrium prices, there will be some other rationing device that decides who gets in and who doesn't.
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