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re: Should state colleges cap their tuition and fees?

Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:52 pm to
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A student makes a 1400 on the SAT and has an A average throughout high school belongs in college. That student shouldn't be forced into another career path (probably trade) because it cost around $22,000 a year to attend South Carolina (tuition, fees, room & board, etc.).


I would think that student is going to be offered a scholarship.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31038 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:54 pm to
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You sound like a pious, spoon fed a-hole. My parents went to lsu for $100 a semester. Tuition is far outpacing inflation..something is not right here. It's turned into another racket


No shite you stupid frick. Its because the government is subsidizing this bullshite through student loans. So government created this problem and your solution to fix it is more government? You are a special kind of retarded.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:55 pm to
It's all irrelevant anyway as most degrees are pointless and the ones that really matter are saturated. I have a degree and I'm not even working in that field.

There is many ways to gain valuable experience without formal education in most job fields. Many ways to learn and get certified without a meaningless college degree for some fields.

And experience trumps most of the time as opposed to educated with no expierience.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:55 pm to
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I could be wrong but I don't think banks ask what your major is when they take loan applications.


They should, but they don't, as the govt guarantees the loans students take for college, regardless of major.

Ironically, they so for housing applications, but not for student loans. That should tell you something.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31038 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:55 pm to
not only should he be able to get a scholarship, he also doesn't have to goto usc. there are plenty of cheaper smaller universities in the state of SC.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:56 pm to
Lol
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31038 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:57 pm to
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It's all irrelevant anyway as most degrees are pointless and the ones that really matter are saturated. I have a degree and I'm not even working in that field.

There is many ways to gain valuable experience without formal education in most job fields. Many ways to learn and get certified without a meaningless college degree for some fields.

And experience trumps most of the time as opposed to educated with no expierience


well maybe i jumped the gun calling you stupid. this is one of the smartest things said in this thread.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20886 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:57 pm to
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It's all irrelevant anyway as most degrees are pointless and the ones that really matter are saturated. I have a degree and I'm not even working in that field.



I know lots of consulting engineers that disagree with you...
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:58 pm to
:kiss:
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 4:59 pm to
Yeah...settle for running a design team and automation instead.

Funny..engineering is one of those fields, along with architecture.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66457 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:08 pm to
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Thats exactly why I'm asking if they should be capped. State colleges are supposed to be te affordable option.


is that 10K a semester or year?

10 K a year is affordable. IF you can't afford living expenses go to a commuter college.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3255 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:17 pm to
I still believe college is affordable for in state prices. I've paid my way through lsu for what's going to amount to 6 years. If a student wants it bad enough they can do it. Sure it's meant living broke but that's where the term living like a college student came from.

When I get out just working 40-50 hours a week will be a joke compared to going to school full time while working full time. And I'll have 0 student loans to pay. I like to believe employers will look at me favorably knowing I can manage my time between work and other things.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:19 pm to
I would agree with you if the colleges were a "free market"

The amount of aid and access to low rate loans are what have grossly inflated the costs of tution. When our parents went to college you could work for the summer and pay for college. That is no longer the case
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:21 pm to
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10 K a year is affordable. IF you can't afford living expenses go to a commuter college.


What if the commuter college doesn't offer the specific field/degree you are pursing (ex: veterinary science, petroleum engineering, oceanography, etc)?

I guess you are you just SOL if you can't afford living expenses? Why should the flagship state college (ex: University of Illinois - Champaign) be more expensive than a different state, commuter school (ex: University of Illinois - Sprinfield)?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66457 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:23 pm to
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I guess you are you just SOL if you can't afford living expenses? Why should the flagship state college (ex: University of Illinois - Champaign) be more expensive than a different state, commuter school (ex: University of Illinois - Sprinfield)?


because its probably a better school
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:25 pm to
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The amount of aid and access to low rate loans are what have grossly inflated the costs of tution. When our parents went to college you could work for the summer and pay for college. That is no longer the cas


I understand that college tuition is no longer going to be $800, $1000 a year like it was when I was in college some 35 years ago. However it is increasing at an alarming rate. I've had friends put their children through college recently and they have said that they've seen drastic increases (20%-25%) over their kid's freshman year to their junior or senior term.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3255 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:26 pm to
This is definitely the case. My first semester at lsu I paid 3000. This semester I paid 5100
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:28 pm to
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10 K a year is affordable.


10k for four years and a bachelors degree, gets you on average 20k a year more than a high school degree for forty years. This is not sustainable.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:38 pm to
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This is definitely the case. My first semester at lsu I paid 3000. This semester I paid 5100


Did your hours drastically differ?

For example, the first semester = 12 hours and the last semester = 18 hours?

If not
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 5:54 pm to
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What if the commuter college doesn't offer the specific field/degree you are pursing (ex: veterinary science, petroleum engineering, oceanography, etc)?


A degree in those fields and most others require 30 or more hours of generic introductory courses like calculus I+II, Chemistry 101, English lit etc. This stuff is usually offered at community and Jr. colleges for much less than a university. Get everything you can a the lowest cost then transfer, universities usually only require that the your last 30 hours be taken in residence to be awarded a degree from the university, but a specialized program would obviously require more.
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