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re: Senior skip day is tomorrow......
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:02 am to jac1280
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:02 am to jac1280
quote:
A kid makes a 70 on test 1 and does test corrections to earn half the points back. That's a 85 now. Same kid makes a 80 on test 2 and does test corrections to earn half the points back. That's a 90 now. Same kid makes a 75 on test 3 and does test corrections to earn half the points back. That's a 88 now. Same kid makes another 80 on test 4 and does test corrections to earn half the points back. That's a 90 now. See how much it can improve their grade
I think all of this is so ridiculously dumb. What have you really accomplished in TESTING the kids on what they've learned if you just curve it up to a grade they didn't earn by giving them an opportunity to raise their grade by correcting answers? Either a kid knows the information or he doesn't. I will never understand this method of teaching. You want to give them extra credit, give them a bonus question at the end that is extremely difficult.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:37 am to dnm3305
because if they go back and correct the wrong answers they learn from their mistakes.........
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:40 am to Geaux23
I have a table made for test corrections.
One column is where they write the problem.
Second column is their scratch work and answer that was incorrect.
Third column is their new scratch work and potential correct answer.
Ideally, they use their old scratch work to show them what mistakes to not make again.
One column is where they write the problem.
Second column is their scratch work and answer that was incorrect.
Third column is their new scratch work and potential correct answer.
Ideally, they use their old scratch work to show them what mistakes to not make again.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:49 am to jac1280
quote:
I have a table made for test corrections.
One column is where they right the problem
Yeah, theyre obviously learning a lot from you.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:11 pm to dnm3305
quote:
I think all of this is so ridiculously dumb. What have you really accomplished in TESTING the kids on what they've learned if you just curve it up to a grade they didn't earn by giving them an opportunity to raise their grade by correcting answers? Either a kid knows the information or he doesn't. I will never understand this method of teaching. You want to give them extra credit, give them a bonus question at the end that is extremely difficult.
Bonus question that is extremely difficult only benefits the kids that already know the information. If he is seeing benefits with this route to actually teach more kids how to grasp the subject, more power to him. Making an A kid into an A+ kid really benefits no one, making a C kid into a B or better kid helps a lot.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 12:39 pm to jac1280
It's obvious that you don't care whether or not you are an a-hole for doing this. Why even bother asking the question? Just so I get my answer out there, you are an a-hole, but it's not because you were offering extra credit on senior skip day, it's because you deemed your class more important than the potential memories they could make by putting out an incentive to not be with their classmates.
The problem is, you don't get that. The end of senior year is bittersweet for students. You're not going to see a lot of these people until your 10 year reunion or ever again. It's about spending time with them as much as possible before they go their separate ways. You put your advanced mathematics class, which will hold absolutely zero bearing on their future (honestly, how many kids in you class are going to end up using that? maybe one?), in front of that. So, that's why you're an a-hole. You can't say 'oh, I offered extra credit so there's no way that can be mean,' but in reality you know full well you have students who will fail without it, therefore attempting to force them to come work math problems they will most likely never use or see again.
There's a difference between being an a-hole and a strict teacher. A strict teacher can put things and perspective and let the small stuff slide in light of the big picture. You are not strict. This was an a-hole move.
Hopefully you'll learn from it and not do the same next year.
The problem is, you don't get that. The end of senior year is bittersweet for students. You're not going to see a lot of these people until your 10 year reunion or ever again. It's about spending time with them as much as possible before they go their separate ways. You put your advanced mathematics class, which will hold absolutely zero bearing on their future (honestly, how many kids in you class are going to end up using that? maybe one?), in front of that. So, that's why you're an a-hole. You can't say 'oh, I offered extra credit so there's no way that can be mean,' but in reality you know full well you have students who will fail without it, therefore attempting to force them to come work math problems they will most likely never use or see again.
There's a difference between being an a-hole and a strict teacher. A strict teacher can put things and perspective and let the small stuff slide in light of the big picture. You are not strict. This was an a-hole move.
Hopefully you'll learn from it and not do the same next year.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:13 pm to Dixie Normus
quote:ummmm he is the TEACHER. i'd hope he treats his class as more important.
it's because you deemed your class more important than the potential memories they could make by putting out an incentive to not be with their classmates
quote:no, YOU don't get that school isn't over until it's over. the grades still count. if students don't care how can it be the teacher's problem?
The problem is, you don't get that.
quote:if they fail, they fail.
ut in reality you know full well you have students who will fail without it, therefore attempting to force them to come work math problems they will most likely never use or see again.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 1:51 pm to chalmetteowl
I like how you like to equate high school with the real world. They're kids. They should be treated like kids, not adults. An adult not getting skip days is not equal to a high school kid not getting skip days. And in what world do adults not get skip days? Paid vacation or sick leave is a thing pretty much everywhere.
It's showing why you're an elementary education major. You're just not that smart, which is unfortunate for whatever students you end up putting forth into this world.
It's showing why you're an elementary education major. You're just not that smart, which is unfortunate for whatever students you end up putting forth into this world.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:03 pm to Dixie Normus
your parents should be proud
they are not longer kids at 18 year old seniors
that is what is wrong with our world
people like you growing up babied with no responsibilities
quote:
I like how you like to equate high school with the real world. They're kids. They should be treated like kids, not adults.
they are not longer kids at 18 year old seniors
that is what is wrong with our world
people like you growing up babied with no responsibilities
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:17 pm to Geaux23
I had plenty of responsibilities growing up and I sure as shite was not babied. All of those responsibilities probably taught me how to distinguish between the important things and things that we should let go in light of the grand scheme of things.
I also don't see how my parents being proud has anything to do with this, but alright bud.
I also don't see how my parents being proud has anything to do with this, but alright bud.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:20 pm to Dixie Normus
Just had a kid check in for my 8th period class. His shorts were soaking wet so I asked him where he came from?
He said once his mom found out that he could earn back over half of the points he missed on last Friday's test, she made his arse leave wherever he was and come check himself in school for my class.
He is failing my class, but not by much, so any little bit helps.
He said once his mom found out that he could earn back over half of the points he missed on last Friday's test, she made his arse leave wherever he was and come check himself in school for my class.
He is failing my class, but not by much, so any little bit helps.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:26 pm to Dixie Normus
sounds like they taught you to make excuses for things you didn't find important instead of getting the job done
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:31 pm to Geaux23
If you want to twist it that way, that's up to you. It's tough to deny that there are things that can take a backseat to the bigger picture. It's done every day and in every place. I'm sure you've done it plenty but that wouldn't support your view so you can play that card.
But hey, at least you can act like a hardass. That counts for something in your book, I'm sure.
But hey, at least you can act like a hardass. That counts for something in your book, I'm sure.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 2:38 pm to jac1280
Good for the kid. I'm sure you consider it to be a moral victory that you got him to abandon whatever he was doing for your class, but not because he won't fail, more because you got to essentially forced him into it. So I guess a congrats is in order for that.
By the way, why are you posting on tigerdroppings during class if you made it so important for him to be there? Shouldn't you be teaching him or something? At least make it worth his while.
By the way, why are you posting on tigerdroppings during class if you made it so important for him to be there? Shouldn't you be teaching him or something? At least make it worth his while.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:11 pm to jac1280
Is that you Mr. Hand? Spicoli says "Hey Dude"
Posted on 4/18/16 at 4:31 pm to Dixie Normus
quote:Well they can choose to make the corrections or not. If they want to skip, then they fail to get the bonus points; they can weigh the costs and benefits accordingly.
it's because you deemed your class more important than the potential memories they could make by putting out an incentive to not be with their classmates.
But the idea that the teacher SHOULD put a skip day first, is just strange prioritization, from the teacher standpoint.
quote:It is 2016 and Facebook and other social media connect is like never before. Besides, if they don't talk to someone for 10 years then senior skip day is probably irrelevant to that relationship.
You're not going to see a lot of these people until your 10 year reunion or ever again.
quote:So by your logic why have any coursework if it has absolutely no bearing?
You put your advanced mathematics class, which will hold absolutely zero bearing on their future
quote:Well for the people who are doing well, there is little issue. For those that need it, they can either make the decision to do the work or skip school. If skipping school is worth it to them, then their prioritization does not indicate future success.
but in reality you know full well you have students who will fail without it
quote:Senior skip day is part of the big picture? This is just weird to me.
in light of the big picture
I'm surprised how big of a deal some of you are making out of a skip day.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 5:37 pm to Dixie Normus
quote:you're a Communist. "Don't go to school, but you deserve the same grade as the kids who do".
showing why you're an elementary education major. You're just not that smart, which is unfortunate for whatever students you end up putting forth into this world.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 5:38 pm to jac1280
So did this a-hole get his rocks off by being a dick to HS seniors who don't give a frick about his class?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:53 pm to OweO
How many kids showed up to this jack wagon's class?
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