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re: OU Racism Update: 2 students expelled over Racist Video
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:37 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:37 pm to Topwater Trout
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not sure if being expelled is fair...never heard of any black guys getting expelled for saying honky or cracker
What about threatening to hang them from trees?
Why does everyone keep glossing over that?
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:37 pm to Teufelhunden
Wow; they're douchebags no doubt, but come on, expulsion? It was a chant, not an assault or rape.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:37 pm to tgrbaitn08
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you must have missed this part
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Students of the University of Oklahoma are guaranteed certain rights by the Constitutions of the United States
What constitutional rights were violated?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:38 pm to JoBoo
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Free speech also has consequences. I'm free to say what I want, but there are repercussions. These poor white victims utilized their right to free speech. They also violated the student code of conduct and are being expelled.
Did this happen on university property?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:38 pm to terd ferguson
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What did they do that was so bad? They said a word... no laws were broken and you can hear the same word every fricking day in music.
Are you fricking retarded? They also went on to talk about "hang[ing] them in a tree."
I swear to God I get more disappointed every day by people who post on this site.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:39 pm to CptBengal
Disturbing trend...the liberals have gone full assault on free speech.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:39 pm to GREENHEAD22
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bullshite, there lives are pretty much over with especially now for being expelled, no other school will take them. Over the top and if they weren't white this would be a mute issue.
Has sharpton made an appearance yet?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:39 pm to Spaceman Spiff
The legal scholars on Volokh are saying they CANNOT be expelled for racist speech because even though it's shitty, it's still protected.
The school is about to get sued.
The school is about to get sued.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to JoBoo
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Free speech also has consequences. I'm free to say what I want, but there are repercussions. These poor white victims utilized their right to free speech. They also violated the student code of conduct and are being expelled.
the question isn't as much one of "free speech" as much as it is "due process". it's kind of shocking that they did an entire investigation of this entire incident in a day. and i'm not sure what kind of DP students at OU are guaranteed, but i'm sure an opportunity to respond is part of it at the minimum.
i know some students who got into shite for legit actions (actions that tested the credibility of their academic integrity). they were not just suspended. they got hearings and all sorts of other process. i don't see how OU has done their due diligence this quickly
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to shiftworker
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The willingness of so many on this board to give up free speech is mind boggling.
They are free to say it. They can still sing it from the top of their lungs.
The pussification of society continues. there are consequences to actions. You should've been taught that, but i'm guessing you're one of the kids who always got a participation award.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to GREENHEAD22
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bullshite, there lives are pretty much over with especially now for being expelled, no other school will take them. Over the top and if they weren't white this would be a mute issue.
Their lives are not over. They can attend a community college of their choice. Or their daddies can hook them up with jobs where they work which was likely going to happen anyway. Also - moot - look it up homie.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to Topwater Trout
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not sure if being expelled is fair...never heard of any black guys getting expelled for saying honky or cracker
Maybe you missed the part of the chant which described the lynching?
Anyone who doesn't think this thing is a major deal, sorry, but there is something wrong with you.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to GaryMyMan
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They also went on to talk about "hang[ing] them in a tree."
The horror!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:40 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:For frick's sake. Get educated.
this would be a mute issue.
MOOT issue.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:41 pm to FalseProphet
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The legal scholars on Volokh are saying they CANNOT be expelled for racist speech because even though it's shitty, it's still protected.
exactly the sort of inquiry to be made during an investigation and a defense allowed during a hearing
it seems neither were done here
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:41 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Did this happen on university property?
Doesn't seem like it. But it doesn't matter anyway in terms of falling under student code of conduct and being in a student org.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:41 pm to titmouse
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It must be the abusive conduct clause, at least that's the only prohibited action that makes any sense to me, but that's a hell of a slope to slip on....
it happened off campus on a bus on the way to a Country Club for dinner.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:42 pm to GetCocky11
I'm glad they got expelled no one forced them to say that bullshite.
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Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
They may get a job doing trim work on a tree
But Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Remix
Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
They may get a job doing trim work on a tree
But Former OU members of SAE will not get a degree
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:42 pm to terd ferguson
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The horror!
Posted on 3/10/15 at 12:42 pm to Robin Masters
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Maybe you missed the part of the chant which described the lynching?
then change the "honky or cracker" argument to any angry or threatening language uttered by a student (regardless of race)
these rules have to apply to everyone, or else you have no rules. it sucks b/c what they said was so shitty, but you have to have an entire system of behavioral regulation, which includes adequate due process for those accused. the rules have to be clear to everyone, or else it is impossible to know if you are breaking a rule
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