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re: OU Racism Update: 2 students expelled over Racist Video
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:02 pm to Carolina Tide
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:02 pm to Carolina Tide
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Also freedom of speech does not mean you're free from consequences.
University president probably expelled the kid to prevent rioting, protests and probable harm to the kids involved. Business decision unfortunately.
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Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:02 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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guns and blankets.
Good idea... bullets and smallpox are cheaper than casinos.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:02 pm to REG861
quote:false.
you were claiming that free speech protected the fraternity against university discipline?
I said that whenever a University restricts speech it is a slippery slope and a dangerous road.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:04 pm to CptBengal
You're sticking to the premise OU has no authority to remove the students.
Yes?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:06 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Because I am stating facts? I stated that black people endured oppression from the white man for 300+ years. Then someone stated apparently I never heard of Jews, Irish, and the Acandians. So I am the real racist for understanding the facts that were presented. Ok gotcha.
Don't crawfish now little buddy. You have your racist double standard and that's fine.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:06 pm to TheBoo
I really DGAF what happens to these kids. I'm just sure they are worthless as human beings.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:07 pm to c on z
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It was out of retaliation from Mixon being called some homosexual slur. I wonder if that was a factor in this being a suspension.
I am not familiar with the story but I SERIOUSLY doubt that they took a light sentence on him because someone used a homosexual slur before he broke this girls face. If he got a light sentence it is because of football and that is all.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:07 pm to Sao
I would say OU has a very interesting lawsuit if they are foolish enough to follow through with expelling them.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:08 pm to Sao
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Expulsion is over the top to you? Seems pretty logical to me and likely doing the kids some short term favors.
Yea, well it seems a bit unfair to the two students considering there was a bus load of other people likely chanting along with them.
I never have liked the stand point of picking a couple of people and making an example of them.
While I don't condone their actions, I tend to agree that free speech at a private function being regulated by a public institution will not end well. Not to mention some of these pricks are likely well connected enough to stir things up.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
:kige:
to every one of your posts in this thread
to every one of your posts in this thread
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:09 pm to BayouBlue386
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would say OU has a very interesting lawsuit if they are foolish enough to follow through with expelling them
These kids' families won't want to have to hire a lawyer to defend the racist chants. The quickest way for this to go away is for these idiots to find another university to attend.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:09 pm to Sao
So I only read the first 4 or so pages and I'm sure the discussion has remained just as intelligent for the next 14 pages.
But anyway, my question here is how they decided to kick out these two kids when there were probably 40 other people on the bus doing the same thing
But anyway, my question here is how they decided to kick out these two kids when there were probably 40 other people on the bus doing the same thing
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:10 pm to LesMiles BFF
Expelled from the University? Maybe a bit too harsh of a penalty. But this wouldn't be the 1st person expelled over something posted on social media [Ex. LSU Pizza Girl].
Who knows, the University could be doing them a favor.
Who knows, the University could be doing them a favor.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:10 pm to Sao
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You're sticking to the premise OU has no authority to remove the students. Yes?
Having authority to do something and acting on that authority without violating one's rights are two separate the things.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:10 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Because I am stating facts? I stated that black people endured oppression from the white man for 300+ years. Then someone stated apparently I never heard of Jews, Irish, and the Acandians. So I am the real racist for understanding the facts that were presented. Ok gotcha.
Wasn't slavery abolished a pretty long time ago? I'm pretty sure it was. I'll google it.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:11 pm to Cap Crunch
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So I only read the first 4 or so pages and I'm sure the discussion has remained just as intelligent for the next 14 pages.
But anyway, my question here is how they decided to kick out these two kids when there were probably 40 other people on the bus doing the same thing
They were specifically booted for their "leadership role" in the chant.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:12 pm to Tigerstudent08
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I am not familiar with the story but I SERIOUSLY doubt that they took a light sentence on him because someone used a homosexual slur before he broke this girls face. If he got a light sentence it is because of football and that is all.
Mixon entered an Alford Plea, which allows him to maintain his innocence while acknowledging that enough evidence exists for a jury to find him guilty.
Mixon was given a one-year deferred sentence, 100 hours of community service and cognitive behavior counseling.
A deferred sentence means Mixon will not have a criminal conviction for the misdemeanor offense if he completes probation successfully. Also, eventually, the charge itself could be expunged from public court records.
LINK
It's because of being a football player.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:13 pm to Robin Masters
I only remember one "leader"
I mean I'd have to imagine anyone who showed their face in that video would transfer but I guess OU made that decision for them
I mean I'd have to imagine anyone who showed their face in that video would transfer but I guess OU made that decision for them
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:13 pm to Robin Masters
quote:So basically, you were the only two identified on camera chanting. We [The University] need to set a precedent on this matter and attempt to move on.
They were specifically booted for their "leadership role" in the chant.
Posted on 3/10/15 at 2:14 pm to Cap Crunch
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But anyway, my question here is how they decided to kick out these two kids when there were probably 40 other people on the bus doing the same thing
Honestly I don't know. Outside of all of the other legal arguments though your question is a more likely stance for the family to take, eg, if mine goes then they all should go. Forget some first amendment fight, the fight will be fairness in that regard. Sadly, that too will further ostracize the kids and likely lynched from that proverbial tree by their own peers.
This post was edited on 3/10/15 at 2:16 pm
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