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re: OT Watch Guru thread: help needed with casual watches

Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:05 am to
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:05 am to
Broke.


I've probably asked. Thoughts on Benarus?

Particularly their GMT. World Diver GMT I believe. Cool look and cool blue accents on dial. Ships with several straps and bands. Movements are just a standard ETA, but still decent.

They just always intrigued me. And OP if you find a used one they MAY be on the high end of your range if second hand.
Posted by wizziko
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:11 am to
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It's going to be way better than a "few minutes" per day. Within 15-20 seconds would be the worse you'll see with a Seiko auto


mine definitely runs a few minutes fast a day
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:14 am to
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I've probably asked. Thoughts on Benarus?


I like their stuff. They remind me of a company called Ocean7. Sort of a boutique type brand. But with decent quality.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:17 am to
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Most watches have mineral glass (5/10 on the Mohs scale) that's easy to scratch.


Yeah no.
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:25 am to
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Yeah no.


I just copied the sales part.

is that not true?

I do like the sapphire crystal much better. Never see scratches. I had a sapphire put in my citizen eco-drive. Its always clean and clear.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 11:29 am
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:28 am to
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is that not true?


Everybody is using sapphire now.
Posted by TheEnglishman
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:30 am to
OH.

I had a citizen eco drive i purchased 6 years ago that didnt have one. it cracked under the knawing of my dog. Got it replaced with sapphire.

Have you ever heard of or experienced anything with the Helgray watches??
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 11:31 am
Posted by TexasTiger34
Austin, Kind of
Member since Mar 2008
11338 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:31 am to
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Everybody is using sapphire now.


link?

that's a bit of a long shot generalization

show me some citizen/seiko/etc. bottom to mid tier watches that have sapphire

Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:28 pm to
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Everybody is using sapphire now.


From my experience... lot of watch companies advertise 'sapphire crystal' or 'super-hard crystal' watch faces, but many of those watches still got minute scratches with everyday wear. Despite the Mohs index rate sapphire as a 9.

However, the higher-end Swiss watches that I got (Rolex, TAG, Breitling, and Longines) manage to avoid getting scratched.

My watch-person said that not all 'sapphire crystal' are the same, and that there is a molecular binding process during manufacturing the sapphire that make them more scratch resistant by binding the surface of the crystal with lubricant so that scratchable objects will glide off the crystal instead of scratching...
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:31 pm to
A sapphire crystal doesn't stop scratches completely. And they have a thin film on them to stop glare. That gets scratched up a little too.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:43 pm to
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A sapphire crystal doesn't stop scratches completely


Well according to the Mohs index: sapphire crystal is rated at a 9 (diamond is 10); thus in theory, the only harder material the can scratch another softer material. So there are not a lot of everyday things that could scratch sapphire... in theory.

This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:45 pm to
It's the thin film that gets scratched. That's what we are seeing when we see "scratches"

ETA: It's called an AR coating. And not all sapphire has it but some do.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:48 pm to
If you scratch sapphire Crystal, you hit the piss out of it. If it had been mineral it would have broken.


My Sinn is second hand. Has minute scratch. I don't know what that guy did. My Tag is brand new. I've knocked the shite out of it a couple times... Nothing.
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:58 pm to
On the helgray watch I posted they are adding the anti-reflective (AR) coating to the inside of the sapphire crystal so the film will not be scratched.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:22 pm to
Casio G-shock.

Good enough for military ops around the globe, in the air, under the water, in the sand, on a mountain, wherever.

Good enough for whatever you're doing around town.

And a lot cheaper.

I tossed one of my G-shocks up and crushed it with a baseball bat. Worked just fine. Never seen anyone willing to do that with a Seiko diver or Rolex.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26528 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:59 pm to
Why would you expect anyone to crush their Seiko or Rolex with a baseball bat?

Why would you expect anyone to crush anything other than a baseball with a baseball bat?
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:49 pm to
this is where I got my NATO straps from

LINK /
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13260 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:56 pm to
Dude get a Stowa or an Archimede with an automatic ETA movement. Check out their websites for the different models.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 5:24 pm to
Do not buy a watch without a sapphire crystal. This is the most important thing.

Again, it MUST have a sapphire crystal.
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