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re: Mississippi Sued Over Unequal Education for Black Students

Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66785 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:46 am to
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What an amazingly ignorant broad brush you have there.


what an ignorant rebuttal, what he said isn't exactly a reach.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7515 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:46 am to
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lets audit the hell out of their book keeping and finances, etc


Do this for the district and schools and you won't need to
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give those schools more money

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30179 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:46 am to
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The SPLC notes that all of the 19 Mississippi school districts rated “F” have overwhelmingly black student bodies, while the state’s five highest-performing school districts are majority white.


Well, sounds like a cultural problem of not making education the focal point.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:47 am to
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What an amazingly ignorant broad brush you have there.

Sorry the truth hurts
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24269 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:48 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:48 am to
What are the financing statistics in all of these districts? Any discussion begins and ends there.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58121 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:50 am to
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lets audit the hell out of their book keeping and finances, etc



Do this for the district and schools and you won't need to


Katrina and the state/charter take over of Nola public schools was the best thing that could have happened for the system. The old school board was corrupt as hell and were all on the take. The principals weren't held accountable and neither were the teachers.

There was a janitor who was the father of one of the higher ups who somehow made over $100K a year with fake overtime.

Someone I know was involved in setting up IT stuff for them and when a delivery of equipment would show up, half the shite was gone by the next school year.


My friend went into one of the classrooms once to do some work and a teacher was frying chicken in the classroom while teaching.

Just a third world circus and nobody gave a shite.

Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:52 am to
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What a wonderful privilege to be able to afford to live wherever you choose.


Are you under the assumption that people with the means to choose where they live are chosen at lot out of the general population?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:53 am to
You know what, frick it. I'm not responding to that
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:53 am to
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Well you knew the four baby daddies weren't going to get involved with anything having to do with their kids


I dated a first grade teacher that had to take a job in St. Helena Parish because she was straight out of college and had a hard time getting hired with no experience. She taught there for two years. We lived together much of that time and her stories were horrific.

Her first year not a single child lived with both parents. During her second year, just two of them did. They arrived in kindergarten/first grade already years behind academically because no one at home did any work whatsoever with them. She had 6-7 year olds that couldn't identify more than three colors or spell their name or tie their shoes. The children did know, however, all about drugs, explicit rap lyrics, and how to call each other the n-word in every other sentence.

Dad was just a sperm donor, mom was too overworked or just didn't give a damn to be actively involved. Hell, many of the kids were living with their 35-40 year old grandmothers.

To expect a teacher to break through this dysfunction and make citizens that value hard work, education and responsibility is completely asinine. I don't care how much you fund a school. If the other 16 hours a day are filled with violence, abuse and apathy at home, these kids are doomed. When do we start holding shitty parents responsible?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7515 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:54 am to
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What are the financing statistics in all of these districts?


Democratically run, so my guess would be there is enough money coming in to run things. Then, the District has raises and set bonuses, more workers than needed, unnecessary expenses, teachers who don't care but have tenure and make too much, underpaid fresh out of college teachers who slowly stop giving a shite, principals who were picked for influence and not substance who make too much, old schools in dis-repair, and discipline is not enforced.

In other words cost per student is there, but too many hands between the taxpayers and the students working the system would be my guess.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36411 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:54 am to
Funny, in New Orleans they're fighting to preserve unequal education along racial lines, i.e. SUNO
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134846 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:55 am to
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ClientNumber9
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58121 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:55 am to
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When do we start holding shitty parents responsible?


That's racist to try and do that.
Posted by corndawg85
MS
Member since Oct 2013
832 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:57 am to
State: Jackson schools violate 22 of 32 education standards

violations include some classified as “standards that pose life-threatening conditions for students and staff

A Superintendent often overturns principals’ implementation of discipline policies and has not ensured safe and clean school facilities.

Other violations include extensive problems with the district’s records, class instruction and a lack of documentation proving that some seniors who graduated in the past two years met the state’s current graduation requirements.

Officials also found that many JPS teachers don’t hold a valid teacher’s license or are not properly endorsed for the subject they are teaching.



This is just one news article that came out in Summer 2016, but I bet there are plenty of others. Maybe if they turned their attention towards the administrators and possibly their own community members and held them accountable they wouldn't have to blame everything on the state of MS. What do they hope to accomplish with this lawsuit? I hope it's holding the schools more accountable because if it's money then you know it's total bullshite.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48305 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:59 am to
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3105 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:04 pm to
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The schools in Jackson don't even have working plumbing. The halls and classrooms are full of mold. Students come and go as they please.


Please tell me how this is the states problem? This falls on the county and the administration of the school board. I am a teacher in Louisiana and we have poor schools and nice schools. Do you want to know why some schools are brand new and kept up, and why some are dilapidated and falling apart?

1. The Parish makes sure it has enough tax revenue to cover their schools. The more money the parish has, the better the schools. Look at St. Tammany Parish for example.

2. School districts that have a lot of money also tend to actually give a shite about their school and they keep it up.

3. Majority white parishes do tend to have better schools. Why is this you ask? The answer is culcha! Look at St. Tammany and Livingston as compared to Orleans parish or Bogalusa school district.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:04 pm to
You are spot on. It is always easier to play the victim card and not accept responsibility. Until the culture of the minority community changes, their youth will pay the price. The welfare plantation is self-perpetuating. Billions of dollars have been spent and the problem only gets worse.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2497 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Ha. Raise their taxes. See how they like that.


The ones complaining don't pay any taxes.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17453 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 12:15 pm to
You mean throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it.....I am shocked!
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