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re: Louisiana School for Math, Science, and the Arts (Natchitoches)
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:44 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:44 pm to tigerfoot
Holdback, by my definition, is to start the educational process and choose to repeat a year. We simply chose to enroll him as late as possible and enable him to still be eligible for any extracurriculars he might choose to be involved with in his high school years.
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 10:58 pm to EA6B
Who’s the girl that graduated from a PA program (just initials)? I know one that went to LSMSA and is now a OA?
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:04 pm to tigerpawl
I graduated there in the last 5 years.
The academics are amazing, most of the faculty have terminal degrees and almost all have at least masters degrees. The school is definitely among the most challenging in the state. The school can be stressful. I came from a top-ranked private school in south LA making straight As and when I got to LSMSA it was still damn hard, humbling experience for many. But I'd say it's 100% worth it.
My class was really strong, tons went out of state to top 20 universities including Harvard, Yale, Stanford, ect. College for me was no harder than LSMSA and it truly prepared me. Many of my friends who stated in state (LSU, ULL) got amazing scholarships and their college counseling is great. Avg. ACT is 29, many I knew had 34+.
The dorms I lived in absolutely sucked but the new dorms I think will be completed for next fall and look very nice. All other facilities are great. Food is okay. School used to be more of a party school and had some problems with drugs but their new head of school really cleaned shite up and its in much better shape now.
The school's environment certainly is different than anything else in Louisiana -- there are a fair share of strange kids but there certainly is a large portion that are perfectly normal with great social skills. School leans liberal but there are still conservatives. School is about 80% white. Kids are from almost every parish, fair amount from BR and laffy, but not many from NOLA.
The academics are better IMO than schools like Episcopal and Newman though culture is completely different. If your daughter is going to be a senior, just know that very few students start in 12th grade (maybe 8 max).
People talk shite about it sometimes but LSMSA has done wonders for so many underprivileged kids in small towns with bad home lives and bad schools.
Most students will know after about 3 weeks if it's right for them. Some instantly fall in love and some hate it. I had a great experience and every graduate I know will say the same but it isn't for everyone.
The academics are amazing, most of the faculty have terminal degrees and almost all have at least masters degrees. The school is definitely among the most challenging in the state. The school can be stressful. I came from a top-ranked private school in south LA making straight As and when I got to LSMSA it was still damn hard, humbling experience for many. But I'd say it's 100% worth it.
My class was really strong, tons went out of state to top 20 universities including Harvard, Yale, Stanford, ect. College for me was no harder than LSMSA and it truly prepared me. Many of my friends who stated in state (LSU, ULL) got amazing scholarships and their college counseling is great. Avg. ACT is 29, many I knew had 34+.
The dorms I lived in absolutely sucked but the new dorms I think will be completed for next fall and look very nice. All other facilities are great. Food is okay. School used to be more of a party school and had some problems with drugs but their new head of school really cleaned shite up and its in much better shape now.
The school's environment certainly is different than anything else in Louisiana -- there are a fair share of strange kids but there certainly is a large portion that are perfectly normal with great social skills. School leans liberal but there are still conservatives. School is about 80% white. Kids are from almost every parish, fair amount from BR and laffy, but not many from NOLA.
The academics are better IMO than schools like Episcopal and Newman though culture is completely different. If your daughter is going to be a senior, just know that very few students start in 12th grade (maybe 8 max).
People talk shite about it sometimes but LSMSA has done wonders for so many underprivileged kids in small towns with bad home lives and bad schools.
Most students will know after about 3 weeks if it's right for them. Some instantly fall in love and some hate it. I had a great experience and every graduate I know will say the same but it isn't for everyone.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:19 pm to kingbob
My daughter and her friends say the same as zug zug and she encouraged her cousins to go. And none of her peer group "turned gay". One boy and one girl of her friends are gay but so is another cousin who went to Teurlings so I don't think gay is caused by the school. All of her friends said it made college way easier and they are all very successful or very fulfilled with non-profit type work as adults. I have not heard any of them say they hated it.
You also can't force a child to go who does not want. There are admissions essays and interviews to make sure it is the child's choice.
You also can't force a child to go who does not want. There are admissions essays and interviews to make sure it is the child's choice.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:38 pm to Epic Cajun
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Give me an above average student with excellent social skills, over a brilliant student with no social skills all day.
To be your project manager, sure. To be a primary care physician, sure. To find a cure for cancer or win a Nobel prize in physics, maybe not.
Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:58 pm to EA6B
quote:I was 17 at graduation (June b'day), didn't attend the 2nd semester of Senior Year since I had enough credits and was enrolled in 3 study halls anyway (1st, last, and adjacent lunch, so 1st semester I slept in, left early, and took a long lunch). This was in Bartlett, TN. They had wanted me to skip ahead and graduate with my sister 2.5 years older but I didn't want to be like one of those "ABC TV After School Special" kids graduating HS at 14-15.
Entering their senior year? Literally no one who didn’t get held back.
Maybe it was different when I was a kid, you had to turn 6 by a certain date in the school year to start the 1st grade, I didn’t make the cutoff and had to start the next year, I and a whole lot of people were 18 going into the 12th grade, almost every guy in my senior class had a draft card.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 12:09 am to tigerpawl
This is a wonderful school that serves the needs of uncharacteristically bright, underprivileged students. The school has historically produced some of the top names in their respective industries. I remember specifically one talented young man gifted in the arts. He didn’t fit the stereotypical mold typically prescribed to a youngster with his mind and body type. The school provided him with tools and support to develop his art and eventually find the confidence to break out in his field. What was this graduate’s name, you may be wondering? VIN DIESEL!
Posted on 12/24/20 at 12:43 am to shutterspeed
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What was this graduate’s name, you may be wondering? VIN DIESEL!
Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:54 am to Epic Cajun
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Give me an above average student with excellent social skills, over a brilliant student with no social skills all day.
Why?
Posted on 12/24/20 at 2:51 am to tigerpawl
My Daughter graduated from LSMSA in May. She was accepted to Baylor, Tulane and LSU Ogden honors college. Her scholarship from financial package made Tulane the best choice. She just finished her first semester at Tulane with a 4.0. She is either going to be an environment engineer or go to Ned school. She did an internship with schlumberger and may want to work in the energy sector.
She loved her time at the school. It’s very liberal but the best educational experience in La hands down. It have no doubt it helped her prepare for college in a way regular HS could never do.
She loved her time at the school. It’s very liberal but the best educational experience in La hands down. It have no doubt it helped her prepare for college in a way regular HS could never do.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 3:16 am to tigerpawl
I wouldn’t worry about the people saying the school will cause you to “turn gay.” Those students were probably smart closeted gay kids who were bullied at the local podunk high school before going to LSMSA.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 6:47 am to VeniVidiVici
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$1,700/year total
Gotta be a digit missing
Actually, not really. My son graduated from there in 2017 and it was 1,000 a semester.
Now speaking on the general theme of this thread
I can speak from some pretty good experience here with him.
First of all, you don’t “catch the gay”. At LSMSA, it is my firm belief that if with most of the students there, if you aren’t on the LBGTQ something something spectrum, then you are the oddball. They use goofy pronouns and cis/pan/asexual all the time. Even nerds form cliques and have nerd hierarchies. We sent him there thinking he’d fit right in because he’s socially awkward and kind of a nerd, and he had more issues there than in Shreveport.
It probably prepared him better for college, but we’ll never know because he flushed all his scholarships down the toilet within a year at Tech.
I don’t think he was “indoctrinated” at all by any faculty. As an educator myself, I’m pretty sure that’s a myth perpetuated by right wingers whose kids turn out to be open to other ideas when they are adolescents.
I probably would keep him at Magnet High knowing what I know now.
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 6:58 am
Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:11 am to tigerpawl
My cousin went there, ended up on a music scholarship at NW St
Also got to play in the thanksgiving day parade in NY
Also got to play in the thanksgiving day parade in NY
Posted on 12/24/20 at 7:39 am to CottonWasKing
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Can’t they play sports for natchitoches high if they can make the team?
Kind of a moot point, IMO. The types to actually attend ain’t playin no ball, for the most point.
Everyone I know that went there are heavy lib/SJW types, if you’re into that sorta thing.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 8:02 am to omarlittle
Threads about LSMSA are always fun to read. The perspective from people who never attended is so slanted and incorrect.
My wife and I went there from 2002-2004. Both attended LSU for undergrad. She earned a PhD and I have a Masters degree. We’re well adjusted adults with good jobs and three kids.
Sure, there were some kids who were socially awkward there. But there was also diversity that I’d not experienced being from a tiny town - people from various religions, ethnicities, sexual orientations, etc. That diversity was actually welcomed for me and allowed me to learn and grow as a man.
The faculty is amazing and the academics are rigorous. Admittedly by this point, a lot of the faculty that was there when I attended has retired. But they keep top notch teaching talent there. It was a wake up call academically for me, coming from a small, rural school where I didn’t have to put forth much effort to maintain a 4.0. I had to learn to study, prioritize my time, and seek help from advisors and friends.
Back when I was there, we were allowed to participate in sports at St Mary’s or at Natchitoches Central. My wife swam for Natchitoches Central. At that time, LSMSA had a rowing team and participated with NSU’s rowing team, which was awesome experience.
Back then, we had 10:00PM curfew on weeknights and 12:00AM curfew on Friday and Saturday nights. Looking back, that feels like a lot of freedom for juniors and seniors in high school.
Junior year, I left Friday afternoon and drove home every weekend, returning by 10:00PM on Sunday. So I really was only there Monday - Friday. I started dating my now-wife at the end of Junior year, so I stayed on campus most weekends my Senior year.
Anyway, those are my two cents in this thread. Others may have had different experiences but it’s really what you make if it. I credit LSMSA for a lot of my success and I’m thankful I met my wife there.
My wife and I went there from 2002-2004. Both attended LSU for undergrad. She earned a PhD and I have a Masters degree. We’re well adjusted adults with good jobs and three kids.
Sure, there were some kids who were socially awkward there. But there was also diversity that I’d not experienced being from a tiny town - people from various religions, ethnicities, sexual orientations, etc. That diversity was actually welcomed for me and allowed me to learn and grow as a man.
The faculty is amazing and the academics are rigorous. Admittedly by this point, a lot of the faculty that was there when I attended has retired. But they keep top notch teaching talent there. It was a wake up call academically for me, coming from a small, rural school where I didn’t have to put forth much effort to maintain a 4.0. I had to learn to study, prioritize my time, and seek help from advisors and friends.
Back when I was there, we were allowed to participate in sports at St Mary’s or at Natchitoches Central. My wife swam for Natchitoches Central. At that time, LSMSA had a rowing team and participated with NSU’s rowing team, which was awesome experience.
Back then, we had 10:00PM curfew on weeknights and 12:00AM curfew on Friday and Saturday nights. Looking back, that feels like a lot of freedom for juniors and seniors in high school.
Junior year, I left Friday afternoon and drove home every weekend, returning by 10:00PM on Sunday. So I really was only there Monday - Friday. I started dating my now-wife at the end of Junior year, so I stayed on campus most weekends my Senior year.
Anyway, those are my two cents in this thread. Others may have had different experiences but it’s really what you make if it. I credit LSMSA for a lot of my success and I’m thankful I met my wife there.
This post was edited on 12/24/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/24/20 at 11:56 am to tigerpawl
It’s a fine place to send an above average kid. My brother went there, his wife works there now. It’s a real community of people. If you find them weird it’s because you ain’t smart enough to keep up.
My brother and his core group of friends from there are all genius level and all high achievers in whatever they are doing in life now.
My brother and his core group of friends from there are all genius level and all high achievers in whatever they are doing in life now.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 2:14 pm to BigJake
Dude I went to Lafayette high with had a full ride to Princeton. If your city has a program like LHS gifted program I don’t see a need.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 3:05 pm to Jim Rockford
Grand Coteau has had that rep for a long time. A few girls I went to school with ended up there after our nuns kicked them out. I met someone this fall that graduated from there two years ago. She had no idea that it was known for attempting to control the wild ones, but responded with, “Yeah, I could definitely see that!”
Posted on 12/24/20 at 3:44 pm to tigerpawl
TIL the current Miss American Teen something or other goes there (no pics you perves). Apparently they're not all weird emos.
Posted on 12/24/20 at 4:21 pm to tigerpawl
The kid will come back a flaming liberal, or worse.
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