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re: John Oliver goes after televangelists and prosperity gospel (video link in OP)

Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:04 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:04 am to
How DARE you doubt the world of the LORD!


Hummmala Pummala fa-fa-fa-fa-fa zeebabadoo na-na-na-mo



He is sending me a message right now that if you would but DI-vest the evil monies in your pocket to me, his humble servant Scamuel Fleece, he will RE-ward you with riches in heaven.


molobolobeeela yamamamadoo boozeebida mimimida palalalakaka

If you keep that evil money it will only lead to SIN AND VICE! But in my hands a simple seed will increase your heavenly riches
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:09 am to
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I could post this on the poli board and get some funny responses.



Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:09 am to
It's a funny concept, this whole "planting seeds" thing. Taken in a literal sense, who the hell ever goes out and buys seeds and then plants them in someone else's garden?

My seeds go in MY bank accou... um... garden, thank you very much.
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28326 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:11 am to
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ilton has always been good for the lulz.



You know it mayne
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31468 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:12 am to
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That was awesome! Anyone who comes here and defends prosperity doctrine is a moron.


i agree, and I find John Oliver tedious.
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2008
3763 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:16 am to
Jesus doesn't talk about it necessarily but it is mentioned in Acts 2:44-45

" 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. "
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:19 am to
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I find John Oliver tedious.

I find it helps if you follow it up with two viewings of the "What Up With That?" sketch on SNL.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:27 am to
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Only bad thing is that he's totally preaching to the choir. How many people who are dumb enough to send money to these TV grifters would be tuning in to Last Week Tonight? I'm thinking those two demographics don't have a lot of overlap.


Not all of these changes are too significant, nor do I think all of them can be directly tied to Oliver's pieces, but TIME did publish something about the impact of his work and some of the changes it has caused.

John Oliver Effect
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:43 am to
Hopefully this will help close yet another one these unfair tax loopholes that ordinary people don't get and therefore have to carry the load that the privileged won't pay.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:51 am to
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Even Jesus was against money and organized religion.


i don't care for televangelists either....but this is false
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69063 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:55 am to
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I sent him a dollar. Maybe he'll mention my name next week




I sent him my Two Dollar bill.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69063 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:58 am to
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opefully this will help close yet another one these unfair tax loopholes that ordinary people don't get and therefore have to carry the load that the privileged won't pay.




F'ing Creflo Dollar can get a G650 for free and not pay taxes, maybe I can at least get someone to buy me a Cessna. Hell I'll even ferry Missionaries.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69063 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 9:59 am to
Well he did say it's really really hard for rich to go to Heaven.....


Also, RA'd for your illegal avatar.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69063 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:09 am to
I like how if you send money to this fake church, it actually goes to one of the best charities out there.
quote:

“(The Church) may choose to wind down and dissolve in the near future. Upon dissolution, any assets belonging to the Church at that time will be distributed to Doctors Without Borders, a non-pro?t charitable organization that is tax-exempt under § 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code (EIN: 13-3433452) and which provides emergency medical aid in places where it is needed most.”
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73680 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:17 am to
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It's like no one has thought this was a scam before last night? I don't get the hype.


Pectus, this was John Oliver speaking. He is the voice of my generation. No one has even come close to approaching this topic in this manner...ever.
This post was edited on 8/17/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:17 am to

His stat there are 350,000 registered religious congregations is astonishing to me.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73680 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:19 am to
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His stat there are 350,000 registered religious congregations is astonishing to me.


That is kind of surprising, but I assume every little church on the backroads of America add up.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:22 am to
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Pectus, this was John Oliver speaking. He is the voice of my generation. No one has even come close to approaching this topic in this manner...ever.




Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:23 am to
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Also, RA'd for your illegal avatar.


what's illegal about it?

Also, you're a pussy
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3468 posts
Posted on 8/17/15 at 10:24 am to
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21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”


Dietrich Bonhoeffer explains this story really well in his book The Cost Of Discipleship. The young rich man knows the commandments, but wants to go beyond them. He asks his question of Jesus out of a piety centered on himself, pretending he is ignorant of the answer. We are called to obedience of God and fellowship with Christ, Jesus answers the young man offering him the opportunity to follow Him. Jesus wants to make sure the young man doesn't see discipleship as the opportunity for an adventure that he could turn away from and head back to his money and old life. Jesus exposes that the mans possessions are literally the thing keeping him from following Jesus, but also that the mans original question about what he must do is based on his desire to feel good about himself rather than truly be obedient to God.
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