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re: Jesse Ventura wins $1.8 million lawsuit
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:32 am to TexasTiger90
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:32 am to TexasTiger90
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$1.8M and give it to Wounded Warriors or right back to CK's widow
hmmmmmm...now, THAT is an idea. It would clear his name and show no intent to profit.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:38 am to brass2mouth
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Him continuing to sue Kyle after his death made him look car worse I the general public eye and in the "fraternity" he was a part of then the alleged comments ever could have.
No it wouldn't. Giving up = it was true. Either way, the public is stupid.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:39 am to Artie Rome
Publishers's insurance policy is paying the settlement so he's not"taking food out of Kyle's kids mouths"
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:40 am to El Magnifico
I wonder how many here defending the liar, Kyle, own those stupid arse hats he sold?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:40 am to CptBengal
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wow, so he was just making all sorts of shite up.
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Kyle later told friends, he was once again put to the test: two men tried to carjack his truck. He was parked at a gas station, southwest of Dallas. “He told the robbers that he just needed to reach back into the truck to get the keys,” Michael J. Mooney wrote in a recent article about Kyle, in D Magazine. Mooney, who had worked on the piece with Kyle’s coöperation, wrote that Kyle “turned around and reached under his winter coat instead, into his waistband. With his right hand, he grabbed his Colt 1911”—a sidearm that is popular with military personnel. “He fired two shots under his left armpit, hitting the first man twice in the chest. Then he turned slightly and fired two more times, hitting the second man twice in the chest. Both men fell dead.”
Police officers arrived at the scene. When they ran Kyle’s license, Mooney wrote, something unusual occurred: “Instead of his name, address, and date of birth, what came up was a phone number at the Department of Defense. At the other end of the line was someone who explained that the police were in the presence of one of the most skilled fighters in U.S. military history.” According to Kyle, security cameras documented the episode.
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Kyle drove away without being charged and, as Mooney put it in a related blog post, later received “e-mails from police officers all over the country, thanking him for ‘cleaning up the streets.’ ” Mooney never saw the security tape or found other corroborating evidence, such as police files or a coroner’s report for the dead carjackers. “Consider this story confirmed by the man himself,” he wrote in the blog post, in which he described Kyle as a “true American badass” and a “real-life action hero.”
There is cause to be skeptical. The counties of Erath, Somervell, and Johnson cover the stretch of highway where the incident supposedly happened. Tommy Bryant, the sheriff of Erath County, told me that he could “guar-an-damn-tee it didn’t happen here.” Greg Doyle, the sheriff of Somervell County, said that he had “never heard” the story, which he found “kinda shocking,” and added, “It did not occur here.”
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In the days after Hurricane Katrina, he said, the law-and-order situation was dire. He and another sniper travelled to New Orleans, set up on top of the Superdome, and proceeded to shoot dozens of armed residents who were contributing to the chaos. Three people shared with me varied recollections of that evening: the first said that Kyle claimed to have shot thirty men on his own; according to the second, the story was that Kyle and the other sniper had shot thirty men between them; the third said that she couldn’t recall specific details.
Had Kyle gone to New Orleans with a gun? Rumors of snipers—both police officers and criminal gunmen—circulated in the weeks after the storm. Since then, they have been largely discredited. A spokesman for U.S. Special Operations Command, or SOCOM, told me, “To the best of anyone’s knowledge at SOCOM, there were no West Coast SEALs deployed to Katrina.” When I related this account to one of Kyle’s officers, he replied, sardonically, “I never heard that story.” The SEAL with extensive experience in special-mission units wondered how dozens of people could be shot by high-velocity rifles and just disappear; Kyle’s version of events, he said, “defies the imagination.”
Pathological Liar IMO
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:44 am to tigerpawl
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m wondering which charity he'll donate the $1.8 million to? I always knew he was a great guy.
Even if Kyle's estate doesn't appeal Jesse will never see $1.8 million.
The lawyer fees are astronomical (1/3 perhaps?) & Uncle Sam will get his.
If they pay up he'll only see several hundred thousand perhaps?
I feel that Kyle's estate/insurance should have to pay Ventura's legal fees . Especially since Ventura offered to drop the lawsuit if Kyle would retract the lie & apologize. They refused & forced Ventura to rack up huge lawyer fees.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:44 am to VetteGuy
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It really makes me wonder about Minnesota voters.
It's a case of it being a three-way race and the candidate everyone expected to win completely flopping.
The race was between Ventura, Norm Coleman (R), and "Skip" Humphrey (D), son of legendary Minnesota politician Hubert H. Humphrey.
Polling going into the election had Humphrey in 1st (35%), Coleman in 2nd (34%), and Ventura in 3rd (21%). The actual results flopped Ventura into 1st (37%) and Humphrey into 3rd( 28%), as apparently a lot of Democrat voters either didn't turn out for Humphrey or went Ventura instead.
There was no requirement for Ventura to win with 50% + 1 vote, so he took office with only a 37% plurality of votes.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:45 am to Napoleon
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When I related this account to one of Kyle’s officers, he replied, sardonically, “I never heard that story.” The SEAL with extensive experience in special-mission units wondered how dozens of people could be shot by high-velocity rifles and just disappear; Kyle’s version of events, he said, “defies the imagination.”
BOOM'd by his own officer.
dude was a clown.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:45 am to El Magnifico
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Publishers's insurance policy is paying the settlement so he's not"taking food out of Kyle's kids mouths"
I am fully aware of that. Please try to read my post in context.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:48 am to Napoleon
quote:Clearly, but our country is full of pathological morons and they ate that shite up
Pathological Liar IMO
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:50 am to teke184
Thanks for the clarification.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:50 am to Napoleon
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Pathological Liar IMO
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Christopher Scott "Chris" Kyle (April 8, 1974 – February 2, 2013) was a United States Navy SEAL who claimed in his autobiography to be the most lethal sniper in American military history with 160 "confirmed" kills out of 255 claimed kills. This statistic, however, is unofficial and has not been corroborated or confirmed by the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Special Operations Command, or the United States Navy.[4][7]
Well that's interesting.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:51 am to Napoleon
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Napoleon
Thanks for the post as I had never heard of the Katrina claims by Kyle. Was he even in the New Orleans ?
(1)Katrina. Was this some fantasy of his to shoot citizens?
(2) The unfounded carjacking(Even the lowest street criminals have family that love them & know another side & would report this shooting along with cops, media.etc...)
3) The highly suspect Ventura story.
Not gonna bash the guy too much because if he made these unsubstantiated claims the man may have been suffering mental trauma.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:55 am to sugar71
So was what JV supposedly said the bigger issue, or the idea that CK knocked him out? Has anyone said that they saw none, both, or either happen?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:59 am to Kingpenm3
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So was what JV supposedly said the bigger issue, or the idea that CK knocked him out? Has anyone said that they saw none, both, or either happen?
He said / he said situation.
CK and his buddies in the bar claim the story happened as told in the book, Ventura and his witnesses say it never happened.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:00 am to teke184
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CK and his buddies in the bar claim the story happened as told in the book, Ventura and his witnesses say it never happened.
Plus the fact that JV is documented to be on blood thinners and had it happened the way CK said, JV would have been in a world of hurt and been visibly messed up for quite a while.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:00 am to Kingpenm3
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So was what JV supposedly said the bigger issue, or the idea that CK knocked him out? Has anyone said that they saw none, both, or either happen?
The jury was not charged with determining whether the punch occurred. Seems the big issue is the defamation associated with the alleged remarks.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:01 am to sugar71
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Was he even in the New Orleans ?
I'm trying to think on that..
So he was in NOLA when the people were still in the dome? So the government deployed top Sniper teams to NOLA to shoot "armed civilians"? In a state that has legal open carry??
One thing that stuck out in my mind the days and weeks after the storm. A lot of people were open carrying.
(it's the only time in my life I ever did)
How from the Dome would he get a vantage on targets? How would he know a target from the dome?
IMO this is the biggest of the lies he told.
I know some looters and others got shot up. I heard rumors of JPSO shooting down a whole group of people.
Just doesn't make sense to send in a sniper team.
Mind you this is before the Government even shows up in NOLA. It took a few days.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:02 am to Kingpenm3
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So was what JV supposedly said the bigger issue, or the idea that CK knocked him out? Has anyone said that they saw none, both, or either happen?
Ventura & many others said it never happened(like Katrina & the carjacking).Says he had a pleasant time at the the event & never recalls ever meeting Kyle(met many SEALS so its possible he doesn't remember the guy at all).
The rest had inconsistent stories that sound like 3rd hand information/rumors(taking Kyle's word or trying to defend him).
Jesse loves the military & has never criticized soldiers that he sees as 'victims' of its politicians. Huge defender of soldiers.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:04 am to Napoleon
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IMO this is the biggest of the lies he told.
I had no idea he made these claims. Game changer.
ETA: Well not really. The carjacking was also clearly bullshite.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 11:05 am
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