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re: In your opinion, who was the greatest leader in history?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:22 pm to Sellecks Moustache
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:22 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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Khan was not only the greatest conqueror, but he also did an incredible job of uniting the Mongol tribes.
We should do another thread tomorrow discussing whether or not Ghengis Khan was actually one person
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 11:23 pm
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:31 pm to fr33manator
George fricking Washington
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:41 pm to Tiger1242
I'm in. But what evidence is there to the contrary?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:43 pm to fr33manator
Bill Clinton. Harvey Millk. Jesse Jackson.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:43 pm to The Third Leg
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In your opinion, who was the greatest leader in history?
I would most like to see him fight Ronald Reagan
A two-bit arsonist.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:45 pm to bencoleman
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A two-bit arsonist.
He led. They followed.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:49 pm to fr33manator
Cant't believe how many people are picking Hitler! He got lots of idiots who couldn't think for themselves to follow him so by rant standards he's a great leader? But isn't that what all y'all think Obama did too?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:53 pm to fr33manator
Mao Zedong, for thinning out their numbers.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:56 pm to Casty McBoozer
as a family the de Medici's
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:04 am to vilma4prez
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Ching Shih
female pirate that went undefeated. a true badass that was apparently beautiful too.
Responses like this are why I read the OT - they provoke instant inquiry.
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The fleet under her command established hegemony over many coastal villages, in some cases even imposing levies and taxes on settlements. According to Robert Antony, Ching Shih "robbed towns, markets, and villages, from Macau to Canton."[18] In 1806 a British officer reported on the terrible fate of those who resisted Ching Shih's pirates; the pirates nailed an enemy's feet to the deck and then beat him senseless.[19] Contemporary reports from the British admiralty called her “The Terror of the South China"[20]
The Chinese navy lost sixty-three ships in the attacks. Even the hired navies of Portugal and Britain could not defeat Ching Shih.[21] Finding it hopeless to defeat her, in 1810, amnesty was offered to all pirates. Ching Shih and Chang Pao wanted to take advantage of the amnesty but negotiation at sea between Chang Pao and the government official ZHANG Bai Ling (???)hit a deadlock. Besides the fate of the loot, one sticking point was the government's demand that the pirates had to kneel before them. For the pirates to consider kneeling in front of their previous defeated foe was too much to accept.
Ching Shih took 17 illiterate women and children and walked into Zhang Bai Ling's office in Canton unarmed and began negotiation. She got everything she wanted including keeping all her loot. The kneeling deadlock was solved by ZHANG Bai Ling acting as a witness at the marriage of Chang Po and Ching Shi. (Officially, Chang Pao was still Ching Shi' son, so a government blessing was needed.) The two had to kneel to thank him. That was accepted as part of the act of surrender. [22][23][24]
She ended her career that year with all her loot. Chang Pao was given an official position in the government. After he died suddenly, Ching Shih went back to Canton with her young son and opened a gambling house.[25] She died in 1844, at the age of 69.[25]
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:09 am to DamnStrong1860
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Cant't believe how many people are picking Hitler!
He is responsible for 50,000,000 deaths. I don't agree with his views. But that is awesome amount of influence. Awesome in a bad way.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:13 am to boom roasted
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I'm in. But what evidence is there to the contrary?
That's the thing there isn't a lot of evidence, just stories, and there is just so much he gets credit for it would be truly amazing if one guy did it all. I don't have any of the info or theories in front of me now though.
He could have been just one guy, he would just be one hell of a guy (for good and bad)
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:17 am to fr33manator
Sir Isaac Newton
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:41 am to fr33manator
The correct answer is George Washington.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:43 am to jacks40
Nick Saban
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:44 am to maine82
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Well Jesus but that's too easy.
Not really
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:45 am to fr33manator
My Penis
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:54 am to fr33manator
Genghis Khan is the true answer
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:56 am to saintsfan92612
He did die in 1227, but he laid the groundwork for the largest empire in history.
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:59 am to Sellecks Moustache
yeah, I couldn't find a gif that ended in 1227 with a quick search.
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