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re: In your opinion, who was the greatest leader in history?
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:36 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:36 pm to fr33manator
Alfred of Wessex
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:36 pm to fr33manator
Benjamin Franklin
Dude did it all, with a woman on each arm, and a drink in his hand.
Dude did it all, with a woman on each arm, and a drink in his hand.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:37 pm to StealthCalais11
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He did horrible things, but you can't argue that the man wasn't an outstanding leader.
He was charismatic, certainly, but he also got his country destroyed.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:42 pm to HempHead
Ching Shih
female pirate that went undefeated. a true badass that was apparently beautiful too.
I actually think Khan was the greatest leader though.
female pirate that went undefeated. a true badass that was apparently beautiful too.
I actually think Khan was the greatest leader though.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:43 pm to HempHead
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He was charismatic, certainly, but he also got his country destroyed.
He went out like a straight G
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:44 pm to fr33manator
Lincoln
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:45 pm to StealthCalais11
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Exactly. Wasn't being sarcastic at all. He did horrible things, but you can't argue that the man wasn't an outstanding leader.
An outstanding leader wouldn't have lead his country into a war there was no way they could ever truly win
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:46 pm to fr33manator
John Wooden
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:47 pm to Tiger1242
So he was great at getting people to follow but not as great at leading them to good things. Which describes a lot of famous rulers.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:48 pm to darbour21
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Jesus
Look at how many people follow him today
Far more claim to than actually do.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:48 pm to lsu480
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He went out like a straight G
So did Kurt Warner
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:48 pm to brass2mouth
quote:Churchill didn't run a perfect war by any means but from what I understand he was quick to distance himself from anything or decision that didn't go perfect. The Dardanelles for example
His people turned against him as soon as the war was over for some reason I'll never understand.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:53 pm to SuperSaint
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The Dardanelles for example
That was in WW1, and he was fired because of it.
Churchill ran wars like they were supposed to be run IMO, knowing people would die.
He was fired over that ordeal, but ended up enlisting in the Army and serving for the remainder of the war.
And while the Germans were bombin the shite out of England, he was out walking the streets with his people instead of hiding out in a bunker.
He wasn't perfect by any means, but he was a badass leader once he was given the chance.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:56 pm to fr33manator
John Madden
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:59 pm to brass2mouth
I know that was WW1 but it showed what type of person he was. I'm not knocking him because it's almost necessary to distance yourself from shitty decisions and downplay them to be a politician. Just saying there were reasons he didn't have the best approval rating. People now act surprised that his approval rating wasn't at 95% or something
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:59 pm to biglego
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Chicken vs Atilla would be epic
Epic Rap Battles of History!!!
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:00 pm to fr33manator
Hitler. He may have been evil, but he was one hell of a leader/motivator.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:01 pm to philly444
Are we determining greatness by ascent and scope of power, or by the effectiveness of that power?
By the former standards, Hitler was exceedingly successful. By the latter, he failed miserably.
By the former standards, Hitler was exceedingly successful. By the latter, he failed miserably.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:03 pm to fr33manator
Eisenhower. As a general and as president, his influence and accomplishments are hard to top. He truly was a leader of men.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:04 pm to fr33manator
Nick Bollettierri
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