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re: How do you explain the origin of the various human races scientifically?

Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to
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documentary
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Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:08 am to
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There are only 3 different "races": Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid.


How did these 3 distinct races develop?
Posted by Andre
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:09 am to
Lolop
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted by NikeFree
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:09 am to
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Hattiesburg, MS

Not surprising.
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:10 am to
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How did these 3 distinct races develop?


Mutant genes
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:13 am to
So you would estimate that all humans came from a common lineage and that mutation occurred causing these 3 predominant distinctions?
Posted by RoyMcavoy
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:14 am to
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If we had been evolving for so long wouldn't there be a dominant race by now or at least much more uniformity? It just seems strange that there are so many different races of one species and they are so different in appearance.


Don't get too hung up on appearance. We're really not that different at all.

Two randomly chosen Koreans may be genetically as different as a Korean and an Italian. Any ethnic group contains 85% of the human genetic diversity of the world. Genetic data shows that no matter how population groups are defined, two people from the same population group are about as different from each other as two people from any two different population groups.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:18 am to
Gotta love evolution debates, people bringing crayons to a gun fight. The first mistake you've made is a very common one no both sides thinking there is such a thing as a superior species. People take the Survival of the Fittest phrase and run wild with it. Evolution IS NOT Linear Biological Advancement marching ever forward to some mythical standard until we're like Gods. Evolution IS life finding a way to fill/exploit new niches in the environment.

The goal/destination of evolution/speciation is biological diversity, not biological advancement.

Now that we have a proper frame of reference for what evolution does and doesn't lead to, why do you think that groups of men isolated for millennia lead to variation within the species? The Blacks and Asians pissed God off so he made the White Devil to get back at them?
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:20 am to
Hence compatibility with breeding, yet I am hung up on the fact that the longer we have gone the further the diversification. According to evolutionary theory should one or the other have a competitive advantage and win out?
Posted by BIGDAB
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:21 am to
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So you would estimate that all humans came from a common lineage and that mutation occurred causing these 3 predominant distinctions?


I was half joking, but going off how similar human genetic make up is, I would say it's a strong possibility we all share basically the same genetic makeup. Whether that's from mutation or something else I wouldn't know.
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:23 am to
Because our heavenly creator wanted it that way.

But you want a scientific answer, I dont have one because nothing makes sense really which is why i just stick with my first answer
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:24 am to
Creation.

God created Adam and Eve FIRST, not ONLY.

Also when Pangaea split it helped keep the different people in their respective places.
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:26 am to
According to science, there arent different races.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:30 am to
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Nothing about my post does this at all. I approached it at a level anyone can understand. You're talking to an educator here. I know what I'm doing.


Sorry. I wasn't directing that at you but to the others posting laughing emoticons and calling the guy stupid.

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I do like comparing them to dog breeds, because that's exactly what ethnicities are. Would it be better if I used horse breeds? Or cow breeds? It's all the same. The OP didn't care about inherited behaviors. They only cared about the external disparate look of humans from across the globe.


But again, dog breeds specifically tell you how an animal is going to behave, its potential for learning, and its purpose in life. We do not in any accepted circumstance use race as a predisposition for behavior, potential, or purpose. Even if you're not trying to make that implication, the audience especially as one who is uneducated in the matters of evolution and genetics and race will likely attach a teleological appeal to your statement.

A "What can I take from this information and how can it be applied?" inference when comparing races to dog breeds can lead to stereotyping, racism and bias thinking.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:31 am to
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According to evolutionary theory should one or the other have a competitive advantage and win out?



And where are these different races of men competing with each other for dominance of local resources if the conditions that lead to their divergence was isolation from each other? It is believed that we out competed Neanderthals into extinction in Europe, but you didn't typically run into many Asians or Africans there back in the day.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:31 am to
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Hence compatibility with breeding, yet I am hung up on the fact that the longer we have gone the further the diversification. According to evolutionary theory should one or the other have a competitive advantage and win out?


No.
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:32 am to
I just find is interesting that on the one hand some say the differences are mutations and on the other they are niches.

Why is the goal of evolution diversification?
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:33 am to
Diversification increases a species' chance of survival.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:36 am to
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So you would estimate that all humans came from a common lineage and that mutation occurred causing these 3 predominant distinctions?



So we descended from 3 people who were all related?






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