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re: How do you explain the origin of the various human races scientifically?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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you say this but in the past like 400 years or so, we have seen one race emerge (the latino/hispanic race)
it doesn't take THAT long
It takes like 3 generations to make a new breed of dog.
Makes sense.
You have to have marked differences to begin the new shift in genotypes though, and that might be where the OP is stuck.
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:54 am to rebeloke
I believe that the explanation can be traced back to the Bible, and Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I think I spelled their names correctly, but anyway. If I remember correctly, Ham is the father of the African nation, Japheth is the father of the Caucasian/European nation, and Shem is the father of the Asian nation.
All races/nationalities can be traced to these three men. Native Americans originally came from Asia, so they are the descendants of Shem. Hispanic/Latino peoples of Central and South America are a mixture of Asian/European, being descendants of indigenous Americans and Spanish/Portuguese.
So that's how the races came to be, from the three sons of Noah. Because, Noah and his family were the only surviving humans after the Great Flood, so they repopulated the Earth. I know everyone will not agree with this, but this is what I believe. I hope it helped answer your question!
All races/nationalities can be traced to these three men. Native Americans originally came from Asia, so they are the descendants of Shem. Hispanic/Latino peoples of Central and South America are a mixture of Asian/European, being descendants of indigenous Americans and Spanish/Portuguese.
So that's how the races came to be, from the three sons of Noah. Because, Noah and his family were the only surviving humans after the Great Flood, so they repopulated the Earth. I know everyone will not agree with this, but this is what I believe. I hope it helped answer your question!
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:54 am to Pectus
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See race as different breeds, like for dogs.
Instead of humans controlling how a dog looks, consider the environment and hooking up with what you find attractive being what determines what breed your kids will be.
Two things -
One: I'm sure those of you who are calling this thread "dumb" and insinuating that the OP is a moron are the first to also chastise and lambast those that deny evolution. He's trying to understand and you're giving him reason to grow stubborn about it.
Two: I don't like comparing humans to dog breeds as it's commonly accepted that all races of humans are mostly equal save for a few exterior traits such as skin tone, eye lids, nose sizes and hair among other traits. The breed of a dog can have a huge impact on its temperament, intellect, and personality which are not seen as big differences between races.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:54 am to rebeloke
Dogs have been bred to foster variously different traits (compared to the original "wolf" appearance). Human have predominantly bred within their own race.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:55 am to LNCHBOX
Bottlenecking, founder effect.......basic evolution. But, it is understandable that those closer to Homo neanderthalensis branch wouldn't understand.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:55 am to SaintlyTiger88
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I believe that the explanation can be traced back to the Bible, and Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I think I spelled their names correctly, but anyway. If I remember correctly, Ham is the father of the African nation, Japheth is the father of the Caucasian/European nation, and Shem is the father of the Asian nation.
Please tell me you are fricking joking!!!! The Old Testament is not to be taken literally you moron. It's FICTION! Noah did not exist......
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:56 am to SaintlyTiger88
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I believe that the explanation can be traced back to the Bible, and Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I think I spelled their names correctly, but anyway. If I remember correctly, Ham is the father of the African nation, Japheth is the father of the Caucasian/European nation, and Shem is the father of the Asian nation. All races/nationalities can be traced to these three men. Native Americans originally came from Asia, so they are the descendants of Shem. Hispanic/Latino peoples of Central and South America are a mixture of Asian/European, being descendants of indigenous Americans and Spanish/Portuguese. So that's how the races came to be, from the three sons of Noah. Because, Noah and his family were the only surviving humans after the Great Flood, so they repopulated the Earth. I know everyone will not agree with this, but this is what I believe. I hope it helped answer your question!
Patently false.
The journey of man: a genetic Odyssey
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:56 am to SaintlyTiger88
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I believe that the explanation can be traced back to the Bible, and Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I think I spelled their names correctly, but anyway. If I remember correctly, Ham is the father of the African nation, Japheth is the father of the Caucasian/European nation, and Shem is the father of the Asian nation.
All races/nationalities can be traced to these three men. Native Americans originally came from Asia, so they are the descendants of Shem. Hispanic/Latino peoples of Central and South America are a mixture of Asian/European, being descendants of indigenous Americans and Spanish/Portuguese.
So that's how the races came to be, from the three sons of Noah. Because, Noah and his family were the only surviving humans after the Great Flood, so they repopulated the Earth. I know everyone will not agree with this, but this is what I believe. I hope it helped answer your question!
You're killing me Smalls
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:56 am to StringedInstruments
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e: I'm sure those of you who are calling this thread "dumb" and insinuating that the OP is a moron are the first to also chastise and lambast those that deny evolution. He's trying to understand and you're giving him reason to grow stubborn about it.
Well, OP is a dumbass that makes dumb threads.
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I don't like comparing humans to dog breeds as it's commonly accepted that all races of humans are mostly equal save for a few exterior traits such as skin tone, eye lids, nose sizes and hair among other traits. The breed of a dog can have a huge impact on its temperament, intellect, and personality which are not seen as big differences between races.
Um, racial stereotypes definitely exist that cover temperament, intellect, etc.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:57 am to StringedInstruments
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One: I'm sure those of you who are calling this thread "dumb" and insinuating that the OP is a moron are the first to also chastise and lambast those that deny evolution. He's trying to understand and you're giving him reason to grow stubborn about it.
Nothing about my post does this at all. I approached it at a level anyone can understand. You're talking to an educator here. I know what I'm doing.
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Two: I don't like comparing humans to dog breeds as it's commonly accepted that all races of humans are mostly equal save for a few exterior traits such as skin tone, eye lids, nose sizes and hair among other traits. The breed of a dog can have a huge impact on its temperament, intellect, health, and personality which are not seen as big differences between races.
I do like comparing them to dog breeds, because that's exactly what ethnicities are. Would it be better if I used horse breeds? Or cow breeds? It's all the same. The OP didn't care about inherited behaviors. They only cared about the external disparate look of humans from across the globe.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:02 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:57 am to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:Correct. But "being Jewish" is one or the other, or both, or neither. Depends on which rabbi you ask. It's complicated and controversial.
Judaism is a religion. Not a race.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:57 am to rebeloke
Adaptations to the different enviromental factors that each faced.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:58 am to Pectus
Well dogs are also purposely bread and farmed for specific traits. Also they breed much quicker and come to maturity much quicker than humans do so you see that much quicker. And if we were to start breeding people for specific traits you see more disparity. over longer Time of course.
Eta: sorry. Talk to text
Eta: sorry. Talk to text
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:58 am to LSUcjb318
Migration + weather/climate conditions + enviroment + 80,000 years = different races
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:00 am to fr33manator
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Well dogs are also purposely bread and farmed for specific traits. Also they breed much quicker and income to maturity much quicker than humans do so you see that much quicker. And if we were to start breeding people for specific traits are you do you see more disparity over longer Time of course.
Well I know that. It's a good model to understand humans' races because we can see and cause the change in our lifetime. The different races obviously came about over a very long time frame, thousands of generations.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:03 am to StringedInstruments
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Two: I don't like comparing humans to dog breeds as it's commonly accepted that all races of humans are mostly equal save for a few exterior traits such as skin tone, eye lids, nose sizes and hair among other traits. The breed of a dog can have a huge impact on its temperament, intellect, and personality which are not seen as big differences between races.
I agree with this
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:03 am to rebeloke
One day there will be only one race and everyone will be a darker shade of beige.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:04 am to Pectus
And isolation is the key as well if you have constant intermixing in inbreeding and miscegenation of peoples you're not going to see the disparity you will if say a population is isolated from almost all outside contact ( see the aborigines certain tribes in remote parts the world) the documentary is awesome.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:05 am to fr33manator
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And isolation is the key as well if you have constant intermixing in inbreeding and miscegenation of peoples you're not going to see the disparity you will if say a population is isolated from almost all outside contact ( see the aborigines certain tribes in remote parts the world) the documentary is awesome.
Preaching to the choir.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:07 am to SaintlyTiger88
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How do you explain the origin of the various human races scientifically? I believe that the explanation can be traced back to the Bible, and Noah's three sons: Ham, Shem, and Japheth. I think I spelled their names correctly, but anyway. If I remember correctly, Ham is the father of the African nation, Japheth is the father of the Caucasian/European nation, and Shem is the father of the Asian nation. All races/nationalities can be traced to these three men. Native Americans originally came from Asia, so they are the descendants of Shem. Hispanic/Latino peoples of Central and South America are a mixture of Asian/European, being descendants of indigenous Americans and Spanish/Portuguese. So that's how the races came to be, from the three sons of Noah. Because, Noah and his family were the only surviving humans after the Great Flood, so they repopulated the Earth. I know everyone will not agree with this, but this is what I believe. I hope it helped answer your question!
But seriously, humans were cut off from each other for 1000s of years. Evolution does it's thing.
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