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Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:36 pm to JOJO Hammer
frick this country
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:37 pm to Sophandros
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How would you react if someone grabbed you while you were minding your own business?
The obvious answer is to stop and give them your full cooperation so that they may carry on their business in the most efficient manner possible.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:44 pm to Corkfather
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I can walk down the street with an AR-15 slung across my back and I still don't have to give them ID.
I do have issues with this though. Because IMo any body walking around in an urban setting with a rifle on his back is looking for or expecting trouble.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:48 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Everyone should be treated with respect, until they give you a reason not to.
This.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 5:57 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Everyone should be treated with respect, until they give you a reason not to.
Especially citizens minding their own business.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 6:22 pm to JOJO Hammer
Haha I know Chris Quintero very well
Posted on 2/21/14 at 6:31 pm to Jim Rockford
I'm in a small town and the Chief of Police and Mayor are always out around the people that elected them. If they f'k up, they hear about it right out in public. Mayor told me if I ever have a problem to walk right into his office and let him know about it. Our Chief of Police - well he's a dumbarse - but you can still pull him aside in the grocery story and voice a concern.
That environment is missing in a LOT of places in America right now.
That environment is missing in a LOT of places in America right now.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 6:41 pm to JOJO Hammer
For what it's worth, the runners and bikers in Austin are some of the biggest douche bags in the world who break the laws all the time.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 6:41 pm to Jim Rockford
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Especially citizens minding their own business
And police officers
Posted on 2/21/14 at 6:45 pm to OFWHAP
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When living in Houston, I once had a constable stop me, while I was exercising, so that he could merely ask for ID. I wasn't jay-walking or breaking any other laws. He gave me shite for a few minutes about not having my ID (who wants to carry that shite around while exercising anyway) and then let me go. Ugh...
"He gave me shite for a few minutes... ...and then let me go."
I rest my case. How long would you have dealt with him if you had given him some shite back?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:26 pm to PlanoPrivateer
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"He gave me shite for a few minutes... ...and then let me go."
I rest my case. How long would you have dealt with him if you had given him some shite back?
There was no need for him to stop and question me in the first place. What the frick was he going to arrest me for? To be honest I'm sure he was bored and looking for some kind of excitement for the day. But then again he didn't approach me in some aggressive, intimidating manner, so I had no need to react defensively.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:38 pm to crimsonsaint
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He should have had the mfer towed.
blow it the f-up
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:43 pm to colorchangintiger
Was the pooping jogger in Austin? Maybe the cops cracked the case?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:49 pm to JOJO Hammer
I've seen videos of cops in London interacting with their citizens and their citizens are treated with respect even when they are guilty. It makes me realize that we are not a free country in at least this one area.
On the flip side, if the police in US big cities treated criminals like the police in London, our police would be killed much more frequently.
On the flip side, if the police in US big cities treated criminals like the police in London, our police would be killed much more frequently.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 7:54 pm to OFWHAP
quote:I’ll accept this but, how do you know that with certainty? There may have been a rape or burglary nearby.
There was no need for him to stop and question me in the first place
quote:He may not be going to arrest you for anything - just wanted some information.
What the frick was he going to arrest me for?
quote:Sure. Really? You are sure he was looking for some kind of excitement. Now you are starting to lose me unless you are a mind reader.
To be honest I'm sure he was bored and looking for some kind of excitement for the day
My point is not that the policeman was 100% right in the case of the Austin jogger. My point is this is very often more advantageous to slow down, listen, react moderately and respectfully; and then, be on your way. This advice doesn't apply just in response to the police but in everyday life as well.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:05 pm to PlanoPrivateer
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I’ll accept this but, how do you know that with certainty? There may have been a rape or burglary nearby.
I will assume this wasn't the case, as there was no manhunt going on. He was a constable (not even a real police officer), and around 2008/2009 Houston gave constables the authority to play "police officer," so they run around and harass citizens for no reason. Considering that anytime some sort of officer harassed me in Houston, it was the Constable in every single case. HPD had real crimes and traffic offenses to investigate I guess.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 8:33 pm to OFWHAP
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OFWHAP
You are just lucky he didn't shoot you. Last year in Houston, the cops shot a double amputee to death for threatening them with a ball point pen.
Then shot a mentally ill man down on his front porch with his hands in the air. Both times the cops got off. Then there was the case of the sheriffs deputy shooting up the fleeing truck with the tarp cover and killing two people in the back. Texas is generally shoot first and so what later.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:40 pm to bencoleman
Texas Failure to Identify Law, What it says vs what police think it says
So, if you are arrested, you must give your name, address, etc. If you are lawfully detained, you do not have to give your info, but if you give false info then that is an offense.
That girl is going to end up getting some money out of this. Sadly, that money will come from the tax payer and the APD will not be the ones who are punished.
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(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.
(b) A person commits an offense if he intentionally gives a false or fictitious name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has:
(1) lawfully arrested the person;
(2) lawfully detained the person; or
(3) requested the information from a person that the peace officer has good cause to believe is a witness to a criminal offense.
So, if you are arrested, you must give your name, address, etc. If you are lawfully detained, you do not have to give your info, but if you give false info then that is an offense.
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What is not an offense is refusing to provide your name, date of birth, or residence address when you are lawfully detained.
That girl is going to end up getting some money out of this. Sadly, that money will come from the tax payer and the APD will not be the ones who are punished.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:44 pm to colorchangintiger
Also this
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In other cities there’s cops who are actually committing sexual assaults on duty, so I thank God that this is what passes for a controversy in Austin, Texas,” Acevedo said.
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