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Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:29 pm to Burlee
quote:Respect is earned not given
kind of funny how all of these types of stories begin with the pedestrian not being cooperative or being a smart arse. I'm not condoning what some of these cops do, but I imagine that 9 times out of 10, if you just showed them some respect, these situations wouldn't escalate like they tend to do.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:30 pm to Burlee
The video doesn't show what caused her detainment. One would have to assume she wasn't hooked for jaywalking and not producing an ID.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:30 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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respect is earned not given
Ding ding ding. Just because you're wearing a pig costume doesn't mean you are owed any more respect than any other stranger.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:31 pm to idlewatcher
She deserves it for wearing those shoes.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:31 pm to Burlee
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I imagine that 9 times out of 10, if you just showed them some respect, these situations wouldn't escalate like they tend to do.
Do you automatically respect random people walking on the street? If not, then why would you automatically respect some cop?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:32 pm to Burlee
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Burlee
Dude, she had her headphones on, the first time she knew about the cops was when they grabbed her.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:33 pm to Rickety Cricket
Bacon 
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:36 pm to bencoleman
someone posted this story on facebook earlier and I'm trying to link the source, but that story talked about how they were trying to get her attention and she wouldn't stop because she had her headphones on. The officer jogged after her and grabbed her arm to get her attention. After they got her attention, she continued to be uncooperative. when asked to provide her name, she refused and was not carrying any ID.
Again, I'm not necessarily condoning what the cops did, but why be so belligerent? just give them your name and move on with your life.
Again, I'm not necessarily condoning what the cops did, but why be so belligerent? just give them your name and move on with your life.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:42 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I still don't know why LEOs don't understand search/seizure concepts.)
I think it's fair to say there is a lack if emphasis ( at best) on citizens rights at all levels of LE. This sort of thing is growing commonplace in our society. It's part if the trending militarization of police forces.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:42 pm to Burlee
Why do you hate freedom?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:42 pm to Burlee
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someone posted this story on facebook earlier and I'm trying to link the source, but that story talked about how they were trying to get her attention and she wouldn't stop because she had her headphones on. The officer jogged after her and grabbed her arm to get her attention. After they got her attention, she continued to be uncooperative. when asked to provide her name, she refused and was not carrying any ID.
None of which are crimes. Did they have reasonable suspicion that she committed a crime? If not, they have no right to detain her, and she has no obligation to provide ID or even speak with them.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:43 pm to Burlee
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After they got her attention, she continued to be uncooperative. when asked to provide her name, she refused and was not carrying any ID.
This...I get that cops suck sometimes but damn...cooperate. Your first reaction should be to find out what they want not to yell and scream.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:45 pm to northshorebamaman
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None of which are crimes. Did they have reasonable suspicion that she committed a crime? If not, they have no right to detain her, and she has no obligation to provide ID or even speak with them.
We simply don't know. If it turns out this was all because she jay walked I believe they were way out of line. I am not so sure that is all she did, however, because the video does not show it and all we have to go on is a story printed in a school newspaper.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:47 pm to gorky
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This...I get that cops suck sometimes but damn...cooperate. Your first reaction should be to find out what they want not to yell and scream.
This right here.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:47 pm to DanTiger
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We simply don't know. If it turns out this was all because she jay walked I believe they were way out of line. I am not so sure that is all she did, however, because the video does not show it and all we have to go on is a story printed in a school newspaper.
They were standing there ticketing all day for this. "pedestrian safety"...they have been doing this all over town. They stay in one lazy arse spot and ticket everyone for the same thing. She was jay walking and that's why they grabbed her, then she started screaming.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:47 pm to DanTiger
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The video doesn't show what caused her detainment. One would have to assume she wasn't hooked for jaywalking and not producing an ID.
Jay walking and failure to produce an id?
Whew. Well it's a good thing Austin PD was tackling the tough crimes of the mean streets that day!!
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:48 pm to Burlee
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Again, I'm not necessarily condoning what the cops did, but why be so belligerent? just give them your name and move on with your life.
That's probably what the German Jews said right after Hitler seized power.
This is the frickin United States of America. Cops can't go around asking people for ID just because. In the State of LA, and many others, I can walk down the street with an AR-15 slung across my back and I still don't have to give them ID.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:48 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:Oh, of course. If they arrested everyone in Texas for that, nothing would ever get built.
The Daily Texan, the student newspaper for the University of Texas at Austin, reported that police arrested the woman for failing to provide identification.
This post was edited on 2/21/14 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 2/21/14 at 3:49 pm to Corkfather
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That's probably what the German Jews said right after Hitler seized power.
This is the frickin United States of America. Cops can't go around asking people for ID just because. In the State of LA, and many others, I can walk down the street with an AR-15 slung across my back and I still don't have to give them ID.
This. Our rights are eroding because people allow it.
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