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Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:22 pm to yurintroubl
Ok, pilot locked out of cockpit
Pilot in cockpit had a medical emergency and died/incapacitated.
Isn't the airplane on autopilot? Simply because the pilot died/incapacitate shouldn't mean the plane would start a descent and crash.
And...no pilot would leave the cockpit unless they were in hands off cruise mode.
Pilot in cockpit had a medical emergency and died/incapacitated.
Isn't the airplane on autopilot? Simply because the pilot died/incapacitate shouldn't mean the plane would start a descent and crash.
And...no pilot would leave the cockpit unless they were in hands off cruise mode.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:30 pm to beejon
Is it possible pilot leaves cockpit
Copilot is flying plane, no auto pilot
Co-pilot not paying attention and plane is actually in a controlled steady dive
Plane loses altitude and copilot tries to correct but it is too late
Plane goes down and hits ground at 400 knots obliterating it
Possible?
Copilot is flying plane, no auto pilot
Co-pilot not paying attention and plane is actually in a controlled steady dive
Plane loses altitude and copilot tries to correct but it is too late
Plane goes down and hits ground at 400 knots obliterating it
Possible?
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:33 pm to supatigah
I think the "hump" before beginning the descent is the dude taking it off autopilot.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:35 pm to supatigah
quote:
Is it possible pilot leaves cockpit
Copilot is flying plane, no auto pilot
Co-pilot not paying attention and plane is actually in a controlled steady dive
Plane loses altitude and copilot tries to correct but it is too late
Plane goes down and hits ground at 400 knots obliterating it
Possible?
As far as I'm aware, and I'm not a pilot, shortly after takeoff everything is done with the programmed autopilot?
Not sure though.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:36 pm to yurintroubl
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I think the "hump" before beginning the descent is the dude taking it off autopilot.
Could be. Lots of implications if that happened.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:41 pm to yurintroubl
Holy shite. Sully sullenberger did not have that in his differential yesterday when he was analyzing why there was no distress call during the descent. This is crazy.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:46 pm to The Boat
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Airbus sucks
No shite.
Why else would Boeing make this a slogan of theirs?
Airbus planes are also poorly compacted and not as well put together as you would like. Constantly breaking down and planes retiring very soon.
Boeing is like the Toyota of the commercial aviation industry. Their planes just don't brake down and they just keep going, going and going while operating at maximum efficiency and peak condition.
I'm also not a fan of the sidestick airbus uses. The stick is fine for something like fighter jets and helicopters but for a big plane, you want something that gives you complete control and makes you feel like it and the yoke does just that, luckily Boeing recognizes and embraces that sentiment.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:48 pm to JBeam
I'll bet some passenger smart phones were recording if pilot trying to break down the cockpit door. Sim cards may give the best evidence.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:53 pm to WeeWee
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Better get used to them, Delta just ordered 50 of them.
Not to worry, the 777x and 787 will kill the frick out of the A380 and A350 and you'll have options with other airlines.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:05 am to WeeWee
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Better get used to them, Delta just ordered 50 of them
I took a flight from Paris on an A330. It was a nice, smooth flight I think. I was smashed and enjoying the complimentary drinks and a nice sleep. Usually Airbus planes seem to make funny noises that don't sound natural to me but the A330 was pretty solid.
As far as camera locations, I thought one mounted behind a flush lense inside the vertical stabilizer looking over the fuselage and wings would be a helpful angle if there is daylight.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 12:08 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:08 am to Sentrius
There is a wiki page about Airbus crashes, but many of them are pilot error stupid shite if that's any consolation.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:08 am to member12
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It was a nice, smooth flight
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I was smashed
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:12 am to Sentrius
It seems like everything I read online from pilots seems to make it sound like A320s are about as safe as it gets.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:15 am to tigerpimpbot
I think the Boeing fleet on average is ancient next to the Airbus fleet.
That says a lot about Boeing when you think about it. I enjoy flying on a wide body Boeing like the 767 and 777 when I get the chance. I'm unfortunately stuck on 717s and CRJ 900s more often than I want to be. The MD/717 isn't bad.
Occasionally I get on an A319 which is okay I suppose. Definitely pleasant than the CRJ, with it's short ceiling and low windows that are so far below any natural sight line from anywhere in the plane.
That says a lot about Boeing when you think about it. I enjoy flying on a wide body Boeing like the 767 and 777 when I get the chance. I'm unfortunately stuck on 717s and CRJ 900s more often than I want to be. The MD/717 isn't bad.
Occasionally I get on an A319 which is okay I suppose. Definitely pleasant than the CRJ, with it's short ceiling and low windows that are so far below any natural sight line from anywhere in the plane.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 12:16 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:15 am to flyAU
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The sound of the door opening is easy to hear in a flight recorder not to mention one pilot probably said "you have control" and said he had to run to the bathroom. You don't just get up and leave the cockpit silently.
If this was a suicide or whatever, how did the pilot know the copilot was going to need to take a leak? He could very well have gone before takeoff and not need to go again. It wasn't that long a flight. I'm leaning slightly toward some kind of medical emergency at this point.
Also, a talking head on one of the cable shows tonight said there are alternate ways of getting into a locked cockpit. He didn't go into it, apparently it's a closely held secret. Just throwing it out there.
And this is just one report. Lufthansa has said they don't know anything about it. Tomorrow it could turn out to be a red herring.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:16 am to tigerpimpbot
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There is a wiki page about Airbus crashes, but many of them are pilot error stupid shite if that's any consolation.
That's because Airbus cockpits are dumb.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:16 am to member12
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That says a lot about Boeing when you think about it. I enjoy flying on a wide body Boeing like the 767 and 777 when I get the chance. I'm unfortunately stuck on 717s and CRJ 900s more often than I want to be. The MD/717 isn't bad.
The 717 is one of the best planes around. Impeccable record.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:19 am to The Boat
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The 717 is one of the best planes around. Impeccable record
I thought it was an MD design.
It's a great looking plane IMO. I did not know it was particularly safe.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 12:21 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:35 am to The Boat
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The 717 is one of the best planes around.
The 747 is the GOAT.
Greatest plane ever. 1500 planes sold. It changed things in how it revolutionized air travel and opened up flying to millions of people enabling them to get around anywhere in the world between a day to 5 hours.
The A380 will never touch the legacy of the 747.
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