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re: Gen. Douglas MacArthur "dug out dug"

Posted on 6/16/15 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 5:59 pm to
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I wanted to retort that Patton, great field commander as he was, barely made it in the Army of the day. Ike promoted at least one subordinate over him (Bradley), removed from command, and almost sent him home a couple of times.


I think that point was made in the thread, Navy - that the PC of the day almost brought him down - so, of course he would not be able to survive today.
Posted by TejasPete
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:09 pm to
My granddad served under him and hated his guts. Never really got into it other than referencing him as dugout dug along with a few of the first curse words I learned.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:23 pm to
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the PC of the day almost brought him down


If by "PC of the day" you mean a prohibition against slapping the shite out of soldiers with "shell shock" or what we'd now diagnose as acute PTSD, sure.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:34 pm to
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If by "PC of the day" you mean a prohibition against slapping the shite out of soldiers with "shell shock" or what we'd now diagnose as acute PTSD, sure.


And comparing the Nazi party to political parties in the U.S., saying the U.S. and U.K. would rule the world together, etc., etc. (He wasn't running for office, he's was trying to win a big damned war - and doing a damned fine job of it, if I might add).
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:38 pm to
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And comparing the Nazi party to political parties in the U.S., saying the U.S. and U.K. would rule the world together, etc., etc. (He wasn't running for office, he's was trying to win a big damned war - and doing a damned fine job of it, if I might add).













Lots of geniuses who can excel in their professions are still eccentrics--and ole Patton was one crazy motherfricker.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:40 pm to
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That's Gregory Peck.




bullshite
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:42 pm to
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That's not MacArthur. That's Gregory Peck.


You joking. That's really Mac. And the stories of his fashion are legendary. When he was a BG (at like 38) he pretty much just put his own uniforms together and wore whatever the frick he wanted.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:47 pm to
I won't respond to the "substance" of this, to the extent that there is any, because it has already been refuted by others.

As to the tone, my response is that you should climb your hillbilly inbred cracker arse down off of your girlfriend/sister, climb into your 1983 model pickup truck with mud flaps and trashy bumper stickers, and take a ride down to what you would call the "liberry."

Don't stop for scratch off lottery tickets. Don't stop at Wal-Mart for new clothes. Don't stop for Schaefer Light. Go directly to the library and seek out a reference librarian. If one is not immediately available, go to the children's section and see if a fourth grader can help you improve your spelling while you wait. I realize that you started this thread after watching the History Channel, but if you try getting history from this thing called A BOOK you might learn something that is actually correct.

DAAAAAAMM.
Posted by LSUinMA
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:21 pm to
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You joking. That's really Mac.


Yeah, it's Mac now. Before it was Gregory Peck in a still from the 1977 film.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:33 pm to
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Before it was Gregory Peck in a still from the 1977 film


Prove it.
Posted by LSUinMA
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:39 pm to


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Prove it.


Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:27 pm to
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Before it was Gregory Peck in a still from the 1977 film


Prove it.



He's right. When that post first went up this was the picture...



Later on they changed it to what it is now.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Later on they changed it to what it is now.


So you say.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:34 pm to
Everyone saw the original post.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:37 pm to
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Everyone saw the original post.


Well then,

it's my word against 'everyone'
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:13 pm to
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it's my word against 'everyone'
Everyone else is correct.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:19 pm to
I said Mac had style.

No one has argued that. Y'all have only been dicking around about what photo I used.

Nothing about my point.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:35 pm to
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I said Mac had style.


Gen George C. Patton had just as much style as your so-called Mac.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:36 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:46 pm to
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Gen George C. Patton had just as much style as your so-called


I cannot disagree.

(but that is George C. Scott)
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:30 pm to
The Marines were used in a shock troop role during WWII, and that was appropriate for the missions they were assigned. The goal of amphibious invasions was to secure land bases for airfields and naval facilities. Seizing the islands quickly was imperative. Transferring men and material from ships to beachheads was not as efficient as unloading at port facilities. The Marines had to clear not only the beaches, but also the terrain from which the ports and airfields could be attacked.

The capital ships were high value targets, but the most valuable ships were the transport ships bringing the soldiers, sailors and airmen who would turn the captured islands into operational bases from which to project power forward towards Japan. And those transport ships were not as heavily armored, fast or maneuverable as warships.

The Marines are awesome. They are not awesomer than the Army.
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