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re: Converting the US to the metric system

Posted on 4/9/23 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 6:03 pm to
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How many teaspoons in a gallon?


The point is, this is a question that almost no one needs to know. Just like you wouldn't naturally measure anything in ml that you would in liters.

And there are three teaspoons to a tablespoon (these are real things that are widely available and used somewhat regularly, not something made up), and two tablespoons per ounce, and 128 oz per gallon. 3x2x128=768 tsp/gal.

You would never measure a gallons worth of liquid out in teaspoons unless you were upconverting a recipe to an industrial scale. And even then the math is simple, provided you know how to multiply by 2 and 3.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7739 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 6:30 pm to
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I'm already fricked enough when the GPS tells me to turn right in 1,000 feet. I'd probably have a panic attack trying to mentally measure out 304.8 meters on the fly.


I am pretty sure your GPS would do the math and just say 300 meters ahead turn left.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55405 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 6:35 pm to
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I am pretty sure your GPS would do the math and just say 300 meters ahead turn left.

Yeah......that's gonna help! I don't know what a thousand feet looks like, much less 300 meters. You ever been buzzed and try to calculate 1,000 feet, baw? Now, do commie measurements. Unpossible!
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12644 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 6:36 pm to
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And there are three teaspoons to a tablespoon (these are real things that are widely available and used somewhat regularly, not something made up), and two tablespoons per ounce, and 128 oz per gallon. 3x2x128=768 tsp/gal.


I just gave one example question, and you used a paragraph to answer it. You completely missed the point, but carry on.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13592 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 8:15 pm to
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It does piss me off that many US cars have a mix of metric and standard bolts on them in their assembly. Pick one or the other for crying out loud and stick with it. That shite is maddening.


If we switched to metric would everyone then immediately lose their 3/8ths sockets instead?
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9907 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 8:24 pm to
I remember when we were doing that back in the 70's and here we are with the same system.
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12074 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 8:34 pm to
I weighed myself this morning. I was at 99.6 Kg.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:04 pm to
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How many teaspoons in a gallon?

The point is, this is a question that almost no one needs to know.
Many a meal has been fricked up because it's hard to convert between all the different units.
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Just like you wouldn't naturally measure anything in ml that you would in liters.
But if you measure in liters then you have already measured in ml as well. They are the same unit, just move the decimal.
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And there are three teaspoons to a tablespoon (these are real things that are widely available and used somewhat regularly, not something made up), and two tablespoons per ounce, and 128 oz per gallon. 3x2x128=768 tsp/gal.
So simple!

You had to use 4 different units and 3 multiplication steps to do something that should be as simple as moving a decimal. And your argument is that is just fine because "almost no one needs to know that". If you want to stay in the kitchen, I've seen many old family recipes that measure in units of "big cans" or "small cans" of whatever the frick. But that's the kind of shite that happens when we use a "system" that's not much of a system at all but rather a mish-mash of random units, people make up their own units so they don't have to remember all that shite. So now I have to cross my fingers that a "big can" is still a "big can" that hasn't succumbed to shrinkflation over the decades, just because we don't use a system that makes enough sense to use.
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You would never measure a gallons worth of liquid out in teaspoons unless you were upconverting a recipe to an industrial scale. And even then the math is simple, provided you know how to multiply by 2 and 3.
You forgot about 128 (and also 8 or 16 if you were converting to cups or pints), which is understandable because there are so many different numbers to multiply by to do what should be a simple conversion. And think about that, we have to do multiple conversions just to scale between the same "system" of units! Fluid volume to fluid volume, yet it requires multiple steps and to recall multiple numbers. In metric it's not a conversion, it's all the same unit with different prefixes, just move the decimal.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:09 pm to
It cannot be done for innumerable reasons and it is a stupid idea.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:11 pm to
frick the rest of the world.

Some countries put men on the moon, others use the metric system.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18236 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:33 pm to
Do you think it's more difficult for those who suck at math to frick up a decimal point, left or right... or use a few different numbers to get the answer? Aim small miss small, or by tenfold *the world shouldn't cater to those who suck at math, regardless of which one you think leads to fewer errors.

I personally don't want to live in a world where 35 degrees is roasting and 15 is chilly. If I'm gonna be ridiculous with measurements, I want to say 288 is chilly and 308 is roasting
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:34 pm to
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Some countries put men on the moon, others use the metric system.
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It cannot be done
So we can put a man on the fricking moon, but we can't switch to metric? That American can-do attitude is pretty selective eh?

And btw metric was used quite a bit on Apollo, most importantly in the critical flight control computers. When values had to be displayed to astronauts they were converted to US customary because that's what they were used to.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 9:38 pm to
Dude they started this when I was like like 6 and I am old
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28745 posts
Posted on 4/9/23 at 10:15 pm to
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Do you think it's more difficult for those who suck at math to frick up a decimal point, left or right... or use a few different numbers to get the answer? Aim small miss small, or by tenfold
If we are switching prefix which moves 1 decimal place and we go the wrong way, then it's a 100-fold frickup which is typically easy to spot. In the case of a 3 place move like liters to ml and we go the wrong way, it's a 1,000,000-fold frickup which is super easy to spot. If a recipe calls for 2 L of water and you need to measure it out in your 500 ml measuring cup, will you put in a drop of water and call it 0.002 mL or will you call yourself stupid and punch yourself in the face and realize you need 2,000 mL?

So the question you should ask is, for those who suck at math, is it easier to count to 3 (while moving a decimal) or multiply by 3 (and maybe also by 2, or by 128)? Would you rather a bunch of small frickups to sneak by, or would you prefer the frickups to slap you in the face so you know you've fricked up?
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*the world shouldn't cater to those who suck at math
The world shouldn't cater to those who can't learn something better. The world also shouldn't invent and continue to use systems that are difficult to learn. The entire purpose of creating a system is to make tasks easier and more efficient.
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regardless of which one you think leads to fewer errors.
It doesn't matter what you or I think, the metric system undoubtedly leads to fewer errors.
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I personally don't want to live in a world where 35 degrees is roasting and 15 is chilly. If I'm gonna be ridiculous with measurements, I want to say 288 is chilly and 308 is roasting
Hey let's do it, Kelvin is awesome! Fahrenheit is fine, 0 degrees means "pretty fricking cold for a human". Celsius/centigrade is cool too, 0 degrees means "pretty fricking cold for water". Kelvin says "frick you, temperature can't be negative", 0 degrees means "nothing in the universe can possibly be colder than this". I like it.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7739 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 12:51 pm to
Out of all the discussions of the metric system. No one discussed the big elephant in the room, will meters replace yards in football. If so, the football field just got a little longer and the distance to a first down would get a little longer too.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8449 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:28 pm to
It’s always been used in science but wasn’t really pushed in school science classes when I came up. Now I’m noticing Schools are using it more in science. I think that’s great. Start teaching it in schools and eventually the swap won’t be as difficult.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20976 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:33 pm to
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How would it make math easier?


Tell me you don't know slugs without saying you don't know slugs.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6141 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Start teaching it in schools and eventually the swap won’t be as difficult.


Teaching it isn't the hard part. It's the billions and billions it would cost to convert EVERYTHING over.

Signage, manuals, text, tools, I can't even begin to name it all.

You'd have to maintain a legacy and current set of data, etc etc.

Have you ever worked for a company that just changed their name?
Websites, legal filings, signage, marketing collateral, etc etc.

It would be significantly more difficult than just having kids say 2.5cm instead of 1 inch.
Posted by RibsandWhiskey
Metry
Member since Aug 2011
656 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 1:57 pm to
It's pretty easy to convert with computers and such.
This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59667 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 2:19 pm to
If we switched to metric would everyone then immediately lose their 3/8ths sockets instead?

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