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re: Brock Turner (Stanford Rapist) to be released from jail this Friday
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I don't care how impaired I am, I don't have the capability to frick an unconscious woman. And he did it in public behind a dumpster.
Obviously not condoning this retards actions that night. My only concern is these stories normally involve teenagers or young adults that have maybe 3-5 years tops of sexual experience. What I mean is, the aggressor may not know what constitutes right or wrong because of lack of experience.
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:38 pm to NYCAuburn
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Did he actually "rape" her?
She was passed out and blind drunk.
In my example, using underage drinking, it doesn't matter what crime I used. Speeding, armed robbery, what ever. If someone uses a gun to rob a 7-11, then the DA convicts them of shoplifting, they still committed an armed robbery.
Whatever he was convicted of, the punishment does not fit the crime. That is why the Judge that under sentenced him caught hell.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:40 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I don't care how impaired I am
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I don't have the capability to frick an unconscious woman.
what if you are so impaired you don't know?
Everyone reacts differently to alcohol...some never remember the stuff they did while drunk and others remember everything
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:43 pm to Hangit
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the punishment does not fit the crime. That is why the Judge that under sentenced him caught hell.
No, the judge caught hell because this became a cause célèbre for feminist moral preening.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:45 pm to Topwater Trout
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what if you are so impaired you don't know?
Everyone reacts differently to alcohol...some never remember the stuff they did while drunk and others remember everything
I still party on weekends and have blacked plenty in my life. I've been beyond "impaired". I would never frick an unconscious woman. I have had plenty of drunk chicks pass out around me in college, that thought has never entered my drunk mind or my sober mind.
A person can either do that or they can't.
Think about the act of undressing and violating a completely limp, unconscious woman.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:46 pm to Hangit
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the DA convicts them of shoplifting, they still committed an armed robbery.
not legally
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:47 pm to Mo Jeaux
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No, the judge caught hell because this became a cause célèbre for feminist moral preening.
It was a feminist cause celebre and rightfully so. That judge essentially declared open season on women.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:49 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Yep.
I read like two pages of this bullshite and was like, nope. Not going through what the OT considers rape today.
I read like two pages of this bullshite and was like, nope. Not going through what the OT considers rape today.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:50 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Lawyers don't make the laws
Ignorance
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:50 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Well in that case, maybe he was the unconscious one being assaulted, after all, we weren't there so who knows!!!
I wasn't there
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:50 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:
Obviously not condoning this retards actions that night. My only concern is these stories normally involve teenagers or young adults that have maybe 3-5 years tops of sexual experience. What I mean is, the aggressor may not know what constitutes right or wrong because of lack of experience.
I knew undressing and sticking my pecker in an unconscious woman was wrong when I was 13 years old with no sexual experience besides grabbing a boob or two.
There is absolutely zero moral ambiguity there and anyone smart enough to get into college, much less Stanford, would 100% know that.
ETA:
I can't believe this thread is happening
. I am out of here.This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:52 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I have had plenty of drunk chicks pass out around me in college, that thought has never entered my drunk mind or my sober mind.
I agree...but some people that are impaired it would even though it may not if they were sober. Do you disagree? People do things they wouldn't do all the time because they are impaired. It still doesn't condone it.
Playing devils advocate...so they are both drunk as hell and she wants to have sex...and passes out while having sex...is he a rapist?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 2:58 pm to Topwater Trout
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Playing devils advocate...so they are both drunk as hell and she wants to have sex...and passes out while having sex...is he a rapist?
Not if he notices and stops immediately.
But that didn't happen.
sidenote:
Funny story, I passed out mid-blow job in college once and she slapped me while I was asleep to wake me up and I wouldn't so she left me on my couch with my pants at my ankles for my roommates to find me when they got home.
And we kept our AC on 68. Thank god no pictures were taken
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
My gf in college rubbed a blister on mine trying to get me to frick...I kept saying no and she kept dry humping
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Assuming this is so, you certainly could say it lessens the intent.
what if you are so impaired you don't know?
But...being drunk doesn't absolve you from a crime, whether it's murdering someone or having sex with an unconscious person, so it's still sexual assault either way, or at least should be.
At the end of the day, I doubt the trauma the girl faced would really matter much knowing he knew or didn't know what he was doing.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:06 pm to shel311
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being drunk doesn't absolve you from a crime
I agree
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I doubt the trauma the girl faced would really matter much knowing he knew or didn't know what he was doing.
true
FTR I think the sentence was too light
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:24 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Oh yeah, the best part is that the DA arranged ALL of this. Including the plea deal AND the punishment. The judge just sentenced based on the DA's suggestion.
So all of the hate towards the judge is misplaced. Inform yourselves.
Link? Stop tarding up this thread
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Though convicted on multiple felony counts, with prosecutors asking for a 6-year custodial sentence, Turner was given only 6 months in jail. With good behavior, he could be out in weeks.
LINK
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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quote:
Wasn't she unconscious and he conscious?
I wasn't there
Good thing witnesses were. Unless you think they perjured themselves to railroad this guy out of spite.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 3:28 pm to REG861
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Good thing witnesses were. Unless you think they perjured themselves to railroad this guy out of spite.
I have never said anything of the sort. Were the witnesses drinking also?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 4:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
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sticking my pecker in an unconscious woman
The whole reason he didn't get charged with rape is because he didn't have sex with her.
He fingered her, which is sexual assault under California law, and he was sentenced for that crime.
They are increasing their penalties for sexual assault now, I believe.
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