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re: Answers in Genesis presents: Noahland
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:56 am to Shepherd88
Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:56 am to Shepherd88
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Damn, a lot of people in this thread going to Hell. I'd love to go see this and yes I believe the story literally. Argue away.
really, Hell is not even mentioned in the Bible so why do you believe in it.
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 10:57 am to OMLandshark
Pascals Wager is nonsense
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:04 am to Roger Klarvin
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The pyramids were built by thousands of paid Egyptians over hundreds of years.
sorry, wrong, the great pyramid according to experts took all of 20-30 yrs ....
yeah right
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:27 am to Brazos
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Gambling with eternity is fun.
I see this reasoning from Christians a lot. They will say something like "you better be right" or "If I'm wrong and there isn't a God then oh well but if you're wrong then you have eternal damnation". What they don't consider is what if the Muslims are right? What if any of the other religions of the world are right?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:31 am to Pepe Lepew
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sorry, wrong, the great pyramid according to experts took all of 20-30 yrs ....
yeah right
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Not each individual pyramid dumbass, the whole of them. There are about 130 pyramids built over a 700-800 year timeframe.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:34 am to Jeff Boomhauer
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What they don't consider is what if the Muslims are right? What if any of the other religions of the world are right?
Because other religions are OBVIOUSLY nonsense
Most Christians have never even considered that any other religion could be true and even use many of the the same arguments against them that they reject when applied to their faith.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:40 am to Brazos
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The chance of spending eternity in complete misery is not something I would gamble with. Look at it from a betting stand point...what do you have to lose? It's the safest best you can make in life. If I'm wrong then oh well I lost nothing. On the other
There it is...
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:42 am to Roger Klarvin
God did things which can not be explained because He wants people to know God did it.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:46 am to Roger Klarvin
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Because other religions are OBVIOUSLY nonsense
Most Christians have never even considered that any other religion could be true and even use many of the the same arguments against them that they reject when applied to their faith.
I guess we should all commit a little jihad then head straight to confession ...you know, just to cover our bases
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:51 am to Roger Klarvin
The big three religions all believe in the same God. The difference maker is Jesus Christ. The Muslims and Jews all recognize Jesus , they just don't believe he was the son of God. I'll put my bet on the man that preached nothing but love and peace and performed countless miracles.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:54 am to Jeff Boomhauer
I don't have a problem with religious people who have investigated all claims and arrived at their conclusion. I disagree, but I respect it.
What annoys me are the majority of religious people who dogmatically accept the religion taught in their youth and have never honestly sought answers.
What annoys me are the majority of religious people who dogmatically accept the religion taught in their youth and have never honestly sought answers.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 11:59 am to Brazos
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The big three religions all believe in the same God. The difference maker is Jesus Christ. The Muslims and Jews all recognize Jesus , they just don't believe he was the son of God. I'll put my bet on the man that preached nothing but love and peace and performed countless miracles.
Illogical reasoning (we have no way of knowing if Jesus actually did the things the Bible says he did) but I'll grant it for the sake of argument.
What about Protestants who believe Catholics go to hell (or vice versa)? What about Mormons? Jehovah's witnesses? Even if Christianity is true, many Christians or Christian offshoots are going to hell.
Or what about Hinduism? Any number of folk religions? The religions of Ancient Greece or Egypt?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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What annoys me are the majority of religious people who dogmatically accept the religion taught in their youth and have never honestly sought answers.
Of all the people who accept evolution, how many have seriously investigated it?
I agree with you. But, taking that same standard, I bet 95% of evolutionists can't explain the difference between natural selection and evolution.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:03 pm to Shepherd88
quote:there's only evident proof that cultural stories from intermingling societies had a shared story told to themake over centuries. And each society molded it to fit their beliefs.
There's pretty evident proof that there was a massive flood several thousand years ago..
I won't go to hell, because I'm already here with the stooooooopids.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
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There's really not anything to argue about
I completely agree with this statement. Christians believe that God created everything (including science) and is capable of anything while not being bound by the laws of mans limited intellect. In other words you can't put God in a box.
Unbelievers put their faith in science and the laws that apply to what we "know" because of science. Therefore anything that can not be explained by these rules must not be true.
Both sides are convinced they are right. This argument is utterly fruitless. No one is changing the mind of anyone else.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:20 pm to tuptiger
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Of all the people who accept evolution, how many have seriously investigated it?
A minority unfortunately, and I say that as someone with two biology degrees.
The difference is that there are no eternal ramifications of being wrong about evolution. For something supposedly so important, most religious people sure don't spend much time questioning it.
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I bet 95% of evolutionists can't explain the difference between natural selection and evolution.
I mean, natural selection is the mechanism that acts upon genetic variation to ultimately produce evolutionary change. For lay people, the "difference" is functionally meaningless.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:23 pm to Blue Velvet
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Blue Velvet
I can't believe you keep getting reinstated. You must have pictures of Chicken with animals or something.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:25 pm to shiftworker
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In other words you can't put God in a box
That's actually exactly what most religions do, they put God in a box that says he did this, this and this and has these specific traits. Take Christianity, God is defined very specifically and narrowly in such a way as to essentially make him a testable hypothesis.
The irony of organized religion is they argue you can't disprove God, which is true, but then they go and assign specific attributes and actions to God which they say must be true thereby making their version of God testable.
I don't know whether or not a God exists, but I can know Christianity isn't true because I can put many of its claim to the test.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I don't know whether or not a God exists, but I can know Christianity isn't true because I can put many of its claim to the test.
Christianity in any of it's many forms is ultimately man made and therefore flawed. I have researched many different Christian beliefs and personally find fault with them all. That being said I believe in the core principles of Christianity. Not to mention if we were to all live by Christian standards this would be a much better place to live.
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they put God in a box that says he did this, this and this and has these specific traits
This goes back to the human idea of what Christianity is or should be. You don't need to be a Christian or a scientist to see that man can screw some stuff up.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 12:39 pm to Pectus
The end of the ice age resulted in massive flooding as the ice sheets retreated.
80% of humans today live within 200 miles of the coast. 200 miles of coast were inundated all over the world.
Inland seas were formed in areas which were once river valleys. They would have been rapidly filled as water overtopped the natural valley walls. These once dry valleys include the modern day Black Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Persian Gulf, British Channel, Bering Straight, Red Sea, Baltic Sea, ect.
Every civilization has a catastrophic flood myth, every single one.
The first civilization in Mesopetamia arises seemingly out of nothing just north of the shore of one of these newly formed seas. That would be consistent with the survivors of a flooded out civilization seeking higher ground.
I'm not saying the entire earth was covered in water, but it was entirely possible that the river valleys where the vast majority of the human population of the time lived could have been rapidly flooded in as little as 40 days as the oceans rose and overflowed into the low-lying valleys.
80% of humans today live within 200 miles of the coast. 200 miles of coast were inundated all over the world.
Inland seas were formed in areas which were once river valleys. They would have been rapidly filled as water overtopped the natural valley walls. These once dry valleys include the modern day Black Sea, Mediterranean Sea, Persian Gulf, British Channel, Bering Straight, Red Sea, Baltic Sea, ect.
Every civilization has a catastrophic flood myth, every single one.
The first civilization in Mesopetamia arises seemingly out of nothing just north of the shore of one of these newly formed seas. That would be consistent with the survivors of a flooded out civilization seeking higher ground.
I'm not saying the entire earth was covered in water, but it was entirely possible that the river valleys where the vast majority of the human population of the time lived could have been rapidly flooded in as little as 40 days as the oceans rose and overflowed into the low-lying valleys.
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