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re: Answers in Genesis presents: Noahland
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:52 am to Shepherd88
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:52 am to Shepherd88
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There's pretty evident proof that there was a massive flood several thousand years ago..
There are massive floods every year.
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Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:53 am to Shepherd88
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There's pretty evident proof that there was a massive flood several thousand years ago..
List three pieces of evidence of The Great Flood.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:53 am to Roger Klarvin
Ok. You got me in these two from that link. Will have to think it over after morning mass.
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Does the Flood story indicate an omnipotent God?
•If God is omnipotent, why not kill what He wanted killed directly? Why resort to a roundabout method that requires innumerable additional miracles?
•The whole idea was to rid the wicked people from the world. Did it work?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:55 am to Pectus
There have been shells and other sea life fossils found on tops of mountains from across the globe.... That's evidence of more than just a "flood".
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:58 am to Bullfrog
Those are dumb logical reasoning questions that any Christian can beat
1) How dare I presume what God's intentions are
2) That was the point. God realized that it was a roundabout way to rid the world of wicked people. And it didn't necessarily work, but He promised never to do it again. And He hasn't. The rainbow sealed that promise.
1) How dare I presume what God's intentions are
2) That was the point. God realized that it was a roundabout way to rid the world of wicked people. And it didn't necessarily work, but He promised never to do it again. And He hasn't. The rainbow sealed that promise.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:58 am to Shepherd88
Or it could be that these things were there from many many years ago when said mountains were just forming and not the massive pieces of stone we see now.
Oh shite never mind. I forgot that God created the earth and the mountains just appeared. LOL
Oh shite never mind. I forgot that God created the earth and the mountains just appeared. LOL
Posted on 6/26/16 at 8:59 am to Shepherd88
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There have been shells and other sea life fossils found on tops of mountains from across the globe.... That's evidence of more than just a "flood".
OK. That is one piece of evidence.
What are two other pieces?
Can you come up with another way for the fossils to get on top of mountains?
What if I were to say to you that the mountains are younger than the fossils that are in them?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:01 am to Pectus
Good points Pectus.
Who can know the mind of a God and roundabouts are evils sorcery. And a promise is a promise.
Who can know the mind of a God and roundabouts are evils sorcery. And a promise is a promise.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:01 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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There's pretty evident proof.
How do the flood beleivers explain the existence of the Aztec, American native and for that matter the pacific Asian population?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:03 am to Bullfrog
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Good points Pectus.
Who can know the mind of a God and roundabouts are evils sorcery. And a promise is a promise.
I just hate how people try to logic away the existence of God by "gotcha" questions.
There's way better ways to do it...all of which can be done by the person internally, no questions that someone had to look up on the internet and use to combat a believer.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:04 am to Pectus
Ahh actually I suspected you'd say that, but considering earth is 7-10k yrs old then your point doesn't hold up.
Now you'll come back and mention how that earth is millions upon millions of years old based on carbon dating. To which I'll point out that the creator of carbon dating actually stated that it's only reliable dating an object up to 6k yrs old.
Now you'll come back and mention how that earth is millions upon millions of years old based on carbon dating. To which I'll point out that the creator of carbon dating actually stated that it's only reliable dating an object up to 6k yrs old.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:06 am to Pectus
quote:So we are just supposed to accept this because you say it?
What if I were to say to you that the mountains are younger than the fossils that are in them?
Well that's just crazy. Good day sir.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:06 am to Shepherd88
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There have been shells and other sea life fossils found on tops of mountains from across the globe.... That's evidence of more than just a "flood".
Plate tectonics
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:06 am to Pectus
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What if I were to say to you that the mountains are younger than the fossils that are in them?
Not to mention the Noah story is the younger version of a remarkably similar story from the Epic of Gilgamesh.
More realistically, Mesopotamia flooded because it was in the valley between the Tigris and Euphrates, some guy saved his family and livestock, and now we have this.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:08 am to Shepherd88
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Ahh actually I suspected you'd say that, but considering earth is 7-10k yrs old then your point doesn't hold up.
Now you'll come back and mention how that earth is millions upon millions of years old based on carbon dating. To which I'll point out that the creator of carbon dating actually stated that it's only reliable dating an object up to 6k yrs old.
I still want your 2 other pieces of evidence.
I also have to say that you are quoting multiple sources incorrectly.
1) Carbon-dating is only useful to ~40,000 years due to a short half-life. So, you can't get millions of years from it anyway. But you CAN get 7-10k years easily.
2) Dating methods with other radioactive elements can get you the millions of years to date how old the Earth is.
3) We can't actually date how old the Earth is directly, because there weren't rocks when the Earth was formed. Earth was molten. We can, however, date the oldest rock and date rocks that formed when the Earth was forming. Meteorites are 4.6 billion years old. That's how old Earth is.
Do you know how old the Sun is?
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:08 am to Pectus
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How dare I presume what God's intentions are
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God realized
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Those are dumb logical reasoning questions that any Christian can beat
It's amazing what you can "beat" when you can literally make up anything.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:10 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I was taking the role of a Christian in 1, and rehashing the story in 2.
(upvoted)
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:12 am to Pectus
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I was taking the role of a Christian in 1, and rehashing the story in 2.
No, I get it. Just pointing that out. Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:12 am to Pectus
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Do you know how old the Sun is?
Nope but I do know it's a star and it has been proven that it's shrinking by 10 miles/ year. So if you do that calculation by more than 10k years then it would be impossible for life to exist on earth, due to extreme heat.
Posted on 6/26/16 at 9:13 am to Shepherd88
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Nope but I do know it's a star
The Sun is as old as the meteorites that are in our solar system. They all formed at roughly the same time.
How old does that make the Sun relative to the Earth?
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