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re: America’s next great city

Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:04 pm to
I’d rather risk getting murdered in New Orleans than willingly live in Kansas
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:06 pm to
Des Moines or Cedar Rapids Iowa.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:07 pm to
Billings, MT
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:07 pm to
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If your Kansas options are Topeka or Wichita I would probably choose Wichita just because I haven’t been a fan of Topeka the couple times I’ve been but each have goods and bads. Topeka is closer to KC but is incredibly bad. Slightly better schools I think but neither have great schools if that’s a concern. I think cost of living is relatively the same.

If you do Wichita I’d live somewhere like Andover/Maize/Goddard/Derby. Much quieter but still close to the city. The schools in those areas are much better as well. I teach in Wichita public schools but coach cross country in Andover and am looking to bounce after next year. Wichita public schools are a disaster right now.


This is good info, thanks. We haven't been to any of those cities aside from passing through a few. We plan to visit to get a feel.

My lean was toward Wichita, but the proximity to KC was drawing me near Topeka.

Our top 3 concerns are home affordability, ability for me to find work, and crime in that order. Crime is only 3rd because we are looking at entire metros and usually you can pick out a safe area once you've settled down and know the surroundings.

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What I like about Wichita is that you get most of the big city amenities without it being too busy.


This is really mostly what we are looking for in terms of feel. Boise has that feel right now, but it's suffering from an insane influx of people from California coming with cash from huge increase to their home equity in CA, as well as a (relative) wage stagnation.

The hard part of leaving Boise is that there aren't any bad areas, relative to Louisiana. There are a few areas where some semi-sketchy things go down, but there are no unsafe ghettos here.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43477 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Cedar Rapids Iowa.


Quickly becoming inner city Chicago-West.

Des Moines won't be far behind.
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:10 pm to
Raleigh has lots to offer, overall the state is great too. Lots of huge companies are coming here primarily tech and medical related. However the housing market is nuts rights now and a lot of relocated Yankees are here. Hope they don’t Ruin a good thing like any other cities.
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:13 pm to
Obviously, many here in Tennessee already are. You didn't define how big "a city" needs to be, so I'd say several places in NC, and specifically:

Boone NC



Brevard NC

Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Jacksonville? There is a reason The Good Place (and really everyone who has spent time there) mercilessly makes fun of it and Duval County. Columbus GA is really just a smaller version of Fayetteville, NC, and I haven’t heard many great things about that town from people who live there.


I loved the Good place

I generally don't base my opinions of a city on a television show. Particularly one created by a person who hates Florida's republican politics.

Our 10 are based on a number of factors. There were so many places to live with a better quality of life, but to get the better quality of life you'd be spending $750k on a home. Just being realistic, we can't do that. We make about $100k a year combined. Likewise, there were places where homes were dirt cheap, but that was for a reason.

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Columbus GA is really just a smaller version of Fayetteville, NC, and I haven’t heard many great things about that town from people who live there.


Fayetteville was actually on our list but was removed because I didn't see much prospect of quickly finding employment compared to places like Greensboro or Jacksonville.

One city that stands out as depressing is Akron. Not much economy but enough between Cleveland and canton for me to find work. Not a huge town, but big enough to find things to do. Not the safest, but also no dangerous by any means. Weather sucks for sure, and I almost took it off because it has a low amount of sunshine, but the housing market there is quite affordable, and in the future land prices around that area aren't crazy expensive. Also, within driving distance to a lot of really good CFB stadiums.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9668 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:16 pm to
Do not move to Topeka - I repeat- DO NOT MOVE TO TOPEKA
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:18 pm to
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DO NOT MOVE TO TOPEKA


Based on this thread, I might actually remove it from the list.
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
4501 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:22 pm to
Cheyenne.

90 minutes from Denver
Two transcontinental interstates
Proximity to the mountains
Low tax state
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49092 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:22 pm to
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One city that stands out as depressing is Akron. Not much economy but enough between Cleveland and canton for me to find work. Not a huge town, but big enough to find things to do. Not the safest, but also no dangerous by any means. Weather sucks for sure, and I almost took it off because it has a low amount of sunshine, but the housing market there is quite affordable, and in the future land prices around that area aren't crazy expensive. Also, within driving distance to a lot of really good CFB stadiums.

I used to travel a lot for work and the longest project that I was ever assigned was in Akron. This was maybe 12-13 years ago but I worked 2 weeks per month in Akron for a year.

It's a pretty boring old mid sized Midwestern town that probably had a big manufacturing/industrial base 60 years ago. There is a decent amount of poverty there but some nice areas. There is a big college campus near downtown. I found the architecture, food, weather to be pretty blah. I'd much rather live in some other places on your list.

Canton was a little nicer than Akron imo.
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
223 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:26 pm to
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I know those two girl bartenders at the little bar I went to one night were tripping over my thick southern accent


I know you jerked off alone in your hotel room later that same night
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 1:34 pm to
Ferriday
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8547 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:11 pm to
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i'm not a climate alarmist but the upper midwest is the future (fresh water)

Milwaukee
Grand Rapids
Minneapolis


More like fresh ice.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7423 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:12 pm to
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It's a pretty boring old mid sized Midwestern town that probably had a big manufacturing/industrial base 60 years ago. There is a decent amount of poverty there but some nice areas. There is a big college campus near downtown. I found the architecture, food, weather to be pretty blah. I'd much rather live in some other places on your list.

Canton was a little nicer than Akron imo.


We haven't ruled out Canton either. But it's so close to Akron that I'd just include it in home search radius if we went with Akron.

This thread actually sparked convo with my wife and we whittled down to 5. Akron, Columbus, Greensboro, Wichita, Jacksonville.

After looking at everything I'm leaning Columbus now. Lot of jobs available on indeed. Housing is a bit high but it seems like a nice clean city. I could drive to watch the Bengals. Lot of good Big 10 stadiums in the proximity. River runs through the city.

Weather is a bit arse and property taxes are higher than I'd like.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:17 pm to
Gretna. Obligatory:

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49092 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:20 pm to
Columbus is pretty nice. I've worked in Dublin a decent amount. The weather there is less shitty than Akron which still gets some of the gloomy, lake effect snow like Cleveland
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31448 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:32 pm to
Columbus and Grand Rapids are underrated.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31448 posts
Posted on 4/24/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Akron, Columbus, Greensboro, Wichita, Jacksonville.


Buddy of mine lives in Greensboro and likes it. Another buddy lives in Jacksonville Beach and loves it. Home prices are crazy down that way I think.
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