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re: 20k guaranteed or coin flip for 100k?

Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68229 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:37 pm to
I'll take the bird in the hand, I have no way of losing. It's done well for me my entire life.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 9:39 pm
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

The expected value of a 100k coin flip is 50k. Any rational thinker should take this


That is undoubtably the correct play from an odds prospective, but I think it depends on your life circumstances whether you can take the risk or not. Some people really in the hole could probably not risk passing up a guarenteed 20k.

Plus at some point the marginal value of each dollar to you decreases. I'd flip the coin in this scenario, but if you change it to from thousands to millions, you'd have to
be crazy (or insanely wealthy) to flip the coin. Even if you are throwing $30 million in expected value away.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:01 pm to
Flipping is the correct play. Those that would take the $20k are assigning an inordinate amount of weight to the probability of the negative outcome.

But then again that's a large component of human nature. Many people will consistently make suboptimal decisions to avoid negative outcomes. Can't fail if you don't try.
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 10:09 pm
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4067 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:08 pm to
I ain't got no chirren or too many bills so I'd take the flip. If I had some debts or kids or something I'd take the 20
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
Bowling Green
Member since Sep 2011
5690 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:08 pm to
I've never made 100,000 for just flipping a coin. Deal.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2050 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

There is $20,000 cash in front of you. You can take the cash and go home if you'd like OR you can flip a coin one time for $100,000 cash.


if I had a little time to set it up, I would probably sell the opportunity for $40k to $45k.

I'm sure I could find a gambler who would jump at the chance to bet $40k on a 50/50 to win $100k. Most gamblers are willing to make bets with slightly losing odds, but that would have a +20% advantage.

If selling the opportunity is against the rules (and no reason it should be... I'm just setting up a side bet with a third party on the same coin-flip), then I would definitely be all-in on the flip myself.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:25 pm to
Did you really put that much thought into some random guy's dumbass scenario?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:28 pm to
I agree with Cosmo, $20k doesn't quite move the needle enough for me, I'd flip the coin.

quote:

The expected value of a 100k coin flip is 50k.

Any rational thinker should take this situation.


quote:

Rationally you should take this situation every time too
Not if you're a poor rational thinker.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

If selling the opportunity is against the rules (and no reason it should be
Of course it should be against the rules. You were given 2 options, the only rule is you gotta pick one.

quote:

I'm just setting up a side bet with a third party on the same coin-flip), then I would definitely be all-in on the flip myself.
You do not know how to play this game.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:32 pm to
Take the 20K and find a penny stock to put it on
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 11:21 pm to
Coin flip
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260497 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Those that would take the $20k are assigning an inordinate amount of weight to the probability of the negative outcome.


Some of you are overthinking this.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16865 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:07 am to
mathematically, you should flop. By taking 20k, you're losing out on 30k of expected value.

But it depends on the individual. Someone who's down and out, he should take the 20k because it means more to him than someone who's loaded.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2196 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 1:11 am to
I'm taking the $20K
Posted by RogerRabbit69
Member since Feb 2016
156 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 6:42 am to
quote:

I'll pay someone $100k if these stupid arse "do this or get this amount of money" threads.


I'm pretty sure you didn't complete your thought...
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:48 am to
All things beings equal, I'd take the coin flip as that's what the odds favor.

However, in my personal situation at the very moment, I'd take the 20k so I could pay off the rest of my student loans.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 7:49 am
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53773 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:49 am to
20k, no question
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10266 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:51 am to
quote:

I'll take the 20. I'll turn it in to 200k within a year.


To bad the government will turn it into $50k instantly.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:54 am to
I'm flipping the coin.

$20K buys a lot of hookers and cocaine.

But $100K buys a LOT of hookers and cocaine.
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
51772 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 7:56 am to
prob flip
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