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re: "Experts" complaining about Byrd signing
Posted on 3/15/14 at 12:03 am to landrywasbeast30
Posted on 3/15/14 at 12:03 am to landrywasbeast30
Rollovers(near the bottom)
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Browns- about $24.5m
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Jags- about $19.5m
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Oakland- I was wrong on them. I forgot they purged last year and had a ton of dead money. But that's also why they have so much this year because all the high priced guys were purged. $2.25m.
I know there were other teams with a good bit, just forgot which ones.
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Saints- $500,000. I think we may have had the lowest amount. Mickey sure does know how to use every ounce of the cap.
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Browns- about $24.5m
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Jags- about $19.5m
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Oakland- I was wrong on them. I forgot they purged last year and had a ton of dead money. But that's also why they have so much this year because all the high priced guys were purged. $2.25m.
I know there were other teams with a good bit, just forgot which ones.
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Saints- $500,000. I think we may have had the lowest amount. Mickey sure does know how to use every ounce of the cap.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 12:06 am
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Posted on 3/15/14 at 12:06 am to bonethug0108
You gotta feel for them, perennial losers so they're horribly mismanaged and can never get that franchise QB. They're regular bottom 5 teams.
The one year they're not the worst a franchise QB comes out and is one of those 'once in a lifetime' players.
The one year they're not the worst a franchise QB comes out and is one of those 'once in a lifetime' players.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 12:07 am to bonethug0108
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Oakland- I was wrong on them
Just makes their spending this week look worse.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 12:08 am
Posted on 3/15/14 at 12:13 am to landrywasbeast30
Miami- $18m
Buffalo- $17.8m
Green Bay- $9.8m. Maybe had they used some of that on defensive players they wouldn't have went to shite without Rodgers.
They didn't even have a rollover space for the Redskins. I know they had restrictions(along with the Cowboys) for "breaking" the unspoken rules of the uncapped year. And the Redskins were the worse of the offenders so I wonder if part of the punishment was no rollover for 2 years.
I didn't check everyone, but aside from the weirdness with the Skins everyone I checked had more rollover than us. I don't think I saw anyone with less than about $1.5m.
Buffalo- $17.8m
Green Bay- $9.8m. Maybe had they used some of that on defensive players they wouldn't have went to shite without Rodgers.
They didn't even have a rollover space for the Redskins. I know they had restrictions(along with the Cowboys) for "breaking" the unspoken rules of the uncapped year. And the Redskins were the worse of the offenders so I wonder if part of the punishment was no rollover for 2 years.
I didn't check everyone, but aside from the weirdness with the Skins everyone I checked had more rollover than us. I don't think I saw anyone with less than about $1.5m.
This post was edited on 3/15/14 at 12:16 am
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:13 am to bonethug0108
You don't build a team by going apeshit in free agency. Every time Tampa made a big signing (minus VJ arguably), it turned into an epic fail whether it was their fault or not.
Ask the Eagles about building a Dream Team via free agency.
You use your cap to tie down the talent that's already there and use the rest to build a supporting cast.
Drew Brees and Reggie White are two of the few free agents that turned teams into champions. That's what, once a decade?
Ask the Eagles about building a Dream Team via free agency.
You use your cap to tie down the talent that's already there and use the rest to build a supporting cast.
Drew Brees and Reggie White are two of the few free agents that turned teams into champions. That's what, once a decade?
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:20 am to THRILLHO
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Barnwell
Hack.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:26 am to htran90
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You gotta feel for them, perennial losers so they're horribly mismanaged and can never get that franchise QB. They're regular bottom 5 teams.
The one year they're not the worst a franchise QB comes out and is one of those 'once in a lifetime' players.
So they were us until 2006.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 7:47 am to lsutigers1992
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You don't build a team by going apeshit in free agency. Every time Tampa made a big signing (minus VJ arguably), it turned into an epic fail whether it was their fault or not.
There's a couple of reasons for that.
One, a team is best as a cohesive unit(especially the lines), and that much influx of new players at one time puts you behind. For Tampa, they're all learning new systems anyway, so if you're going to bring in a bunch of new players, this is the time.
Being super busy in free agency also can have an impact on locker room moral, because money is being spent on outsiders rather than in house. Like an office, if promotions are mostly outside hires, it starts to rub workers the wrong way.
You also have to be careful that the player you're signing is a scheme fit. Not all players are transferable. You have to be selective, so if you're very active in a limited FA pool (relative to the draft), you're bound to be signing players that aren't a scheme fit, and you're tying up money in the wrong place.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:06 am to landrywasbeast30
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I stopped watching for everything except games after the Marcus Smart stuff, when they basically ruined that fan and excused Smart.
I quit watching espn after the start of "bounty gate". I've watched games but not a second of anything else.
Espn is the TMZ of sports, except worse because they have the power to create news. It's pathetic.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:07 am to noonan
And Grantland is their method for creating opinions online.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:09 am to Sophandros
I like a lot of what Grantland offers.
They generally have a great deal of journalistic integrity.
But no one is perfect.
Barnwell gets a lot of hate on here.
They generally have a great deal of journalistic integrity.
But no one is perfect.
Barnwell gets a lot of hate on here.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:19 am to landrywasbeast30
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My favorite thing about the Byrd signing
Byrd has 22 interceptions in just 5 seasons.
11 forced fumbles.
last year he picked off 4 passes yet only played in 11 games.
this guy gets it. Take the ball away.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:21 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:Solid.
Stuff
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:28 am to Patrick O Rly
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Being super busy in free agency also can have an impact on locker room moral, because money is being spent on outsiders rather than in house. Like an office, if promotions are mostly outside hires, it starts to rub workers the wrong way.
Very good point Paddy!
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:29 am to Hoodoo Man
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Barnwell gets a lot of hate on here.
I've hated Barnwell since his days at Football Outsiders.
I'm the hipster of Barnwell haters.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 10:45 am to Sophandros
Kinda funny to me- It seems as if suddenly the light of cap understanding came on to the whodat masses this year. Problem is, plenty still don't get it. It's no simple science and not nearly as interesting as talking about WR performance. You might call it cap hell but I see it as more "all in". Ther Byrd signing is one of the largest rabbits Loomis has ever pulled out of his hat.
My two big cap rants this off season-
1. You want cap space? Then be a fan of the teams listed above. Excessive cap space usually reflects a struggling franchise. Contenders have to cope with paying for success.
2. Please stop the do it like Seattle, SF, & Carolina pleas. Those three are all in the first cycle of success of those regimes. They are like the Saints in '09. We rode plenty of rookie deals and an all world QB making less money than Sanchez or Sam Bradford. Let's give them 2-3 more years and see how their model is working. Just Kaep, Newton, & Wilson are gonna throw these teams into a whole new cap dynamic. I'm not acknowledging their models as successful until they continue beyond this first wave (like the Saints four years after a SB win).
My two big cap rants this off season-
1. You want cap space? Then be a fan of the teams listed above. Excessive cap space usually reflects a struggling franchise. Contenders have to cope with paying for success.
2. Please stop the do it like Seattle, SF, & Carolina pleas. Those three are all in the first cycle of success of those regimes. They are like the Saints in '09. We rode plenty of rookie deals and an all world QB making less money than Sanchez or Sam Bradford. Let's give them 2-3 more years and see how their model is working. Just Kaep, Newton, & Wilson are gonna throw these teams into a whole new cap dynamic. I'm not acknowledging their models as successful until they continue beyond this first wave (like the Saints four years after a SB win).
Posted on 3/15/14 at 5:49 pm to Sophandros
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Hack.
We need more people like Zack Lowe and Jonah Keri, and less like Barnwell.
Posted on 3/15/14 at 5:58 pm to Sophandros
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And Grantland is their method for creating opinions online.
Grantland happened because Bill Simmons had a midlife crisis, and surrounded himself with young hipsters, and Jalen Rose, to feel cool. His need to shove Rose down everyone's throat to show how cool Simmons himself is, I just find Rose very annoying.
Either Jonah Keri or Chuck Klosterman had a line about not feeling like disagreeing with something just for the hell of it, and because he didn't want to be a hipster. I laughed because that's all that the entire website is. Hipster's disagreeing with stuff just for the hell of it.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:11 am to landrywasbeast30
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"Experts"
Posted on 3/16/14 at 7:19 am to landrywasbeast30
BTW, Sports On Earth is a great place for sports columns.
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