re: Draft "Rumor" about the Saints possibly moving up to 5th

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This draft is nowhere near that 2011 draft. They had to try to get a bust in the top ten that year. Ridiculous talent in the top of that draft.

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Yes & they took a risk on a quarterback that actually had better physical tools than Marcus Mariota. Where did that get them? The draft is chess not checkers. People get fired for making poor decisions with high draft choices in the NFL. The Titans management isn't going to take another risk on another project quarterback coming out of a college spread system.

Out of all those guys mentioned and you showed pics of....only 2 of those went in the top 5. And one of them is also considered one of the greatest defensive players of all time.


There aren't any Demarcus Wares, Von Millers and LTs in this draft.


Fowler MIGHT be a Suggs clone but is he worthy of a top 5 pick?


Not to me. Top 10 yes but people are underestimating how fricking hard it is to get into the top 5 of the NFL draft. It could potentially set back a franchise. Look at the Redskins

Now saints have 5 picks in top 3rd of draft if they pick right they could have 5 starters by next season.They are not one player away from being a deep playoff team.DO NOT Trade UP if anything trade down.

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And one of them is also considered one of the greatest defensive players of all time.

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Well no shite but I seriously doubt anyone knew that when he was drafted, did they? Plus 4 of them will go down as some of the pass rushers to ever play the game. Derrick Thomas was strictly a pass rusher only but had one the greatest impacts on that side of the ball ever.

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There aren't any Demarcus Wares, Von Millers and LTs in this draft.

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I'm not sure what you are looking at but Vic Beasley falls into this category of pass rushers.

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Fowler MIGHT be a Suggs clone but is he worthy of a top 5 pick?

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This is one of the worse comparisons I've seen on this board this entire draft season. Fowler is nothing like Suggs was coming out of Arizona St. He isn't close to being the polished pass rusher Suggs was coming out of college.

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Broke the NCAA sack record in 2002 with 24 sacks

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They have no stars on their team. The general public would be hard pressed to name a single Titans player.They need a face of the franchise and Mett is not it.

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And it's decisions like this that sink franchises 5-10 years deeper into piss poor play. Might as well take advice from a homeless man then. Wait, the Browns owner already did that last draft. I seriously doubt Whisenhunt goes for that. Ultimately, it's he & his staff whose necks are under the guillotine here.

Secondly, pay attention to what is working & what is failing across the league in terms of drafting quarterbacks. The running, spread quarterbacks were a fad for a minute but look what was successful last draft. Teddy Bridgewater & Derek Carr had successful rookie seasons coming out of pro style college offenses. Even Blake Bortles had his share of moments. Now look back at the spread quarterbacks of the last few drafts & look at their struggles. Teams are beginning to realize that these spread guys aren't day one starters but 2-3 year projects.

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reaffirmed his belief that FSU QB Jameis Winston and Oregon QB Marcus Mariota will go Nos. 1-2 later this month. "I could see any number of a half-dozen teams using [the No. 2] selection on the Oregon quarterback, including the Titans, who currently have it," La Canfora wrote. "But Tennessee doesn't seem married to that idea by any stretch and the Rams, Saints, Eagles, Browns or Chargers could end up in this spot to take the quarterback. Regardless, I hold firm to the belief that quarterbacks go 1-2, as they did in 2012. It's a two-quarterback draft and need prevails."

For all the ridiculous shite I have heard and read the past month, I'd like to emphasize this might be the most ridiculous. Especially if they are targeting Mariota.

Bryce Petty is the target in the 3rd round if they want to tutor someone. But he ain't lasting that long.

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CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora

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Stopped reading right there.

You do realize that dude is a joke with no real connections, right?

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And it's decisions like this that sink franchises 5-10 years deeper into piss poor play.

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Yes, but they need to find a franchise QB both for on field performance and marketing purposes so they may be willing to gamble instead of waiting until next year. You simply cannot win without one and I do not think Mett fills that role. Mariota is probably a bad pick, but there aren't many home run prospects this year. Williams is not a Suh type propsect or even Dareus. Can you honestly say that Williams is that much better of a prospect than Cam Jordan was if at all? Williams wouldn't sniff the top 10 in that 2011 draft.

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I seriously doubt Whisenhunt goes for that. Ultimately, it's he & his staff whose necks are under the guillotine here.

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Wisenhunt is not the GM. That would be Ruston Webster. If the GM lets Whiz proceed with Met and Mariota (who ownership likes) shows progress, while Met bombs again, he is gone. You know how to buy an extra year as a GM, you draft a rookie QB that your owner likes who needs some time to develop. A rookie QB gives him an out for a poor season whereas if he passes on a rookie QB who does well, that's a fireable offense.

Again with the false arguments. DJ had 60 pass defenses and 11 picks. He was GREAT in coverage. Yes he wasn't playing for the run but he was NOT just a pass rusher. Same with the other guys you showed. Most can play at least two phases if not all three.

And no not all of these draft guys are going to come anywhere to the guys you showed. Odds are you may have one at the most in the top come close to that level.

You are framing your narrative with faulty info.