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re: Bill Barnwell of ESPN doesn't really like the Saints offseason moves...

Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by deuce985
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:18 pm to
Well he should. Loomis should've been fired by the Saints organization years ago. I don't care what anyone says he's a terrible GM.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:24 pm to
There are worse options out there. Look at Atlanta and TD
Posted by VetteGuy
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:37 pm to
Well it certainly isn't as dumb as grading a draft class 15 minutes after the draft ends...




For 2016. Per the article, the Saints have the fourth highest strength of schedule facing opponents with a .547 winning percentage (140-116). The team takes on the NFC West, AFC West, Detroit Lions, and New York Giants in addition to their six NFC South conference games.

Last season, the New Orleans Saints had the fifth lowest strength of schedule (.429). Obviously, that didn’t do them any favors after turning in a 7-9 record. So, maybe it’s a good thing that the team has to play some harder opponents on paper.


Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:45 pm to
Cool

Still meaningless
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:22 pm to
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Don't understand the constant complaints about this signing. We got a good deal on a veteran defensive quarterback


The complaints stem from him being the worst graded LB last season coupled with missing out on Danny travatheon and jerrell freeman, who are superior players on great deals... Which will also spark Fleener hate, bc his money could've been used there
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:33 pm to
But ask yourself, would fleener or trevathan help more?
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:36 pm to
Damn you Pat!
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:32 pm to
Trevathan without hesitation, but the player has to want to come here. People can point and say "Man, for this money we could have gotten so and so" when we were never on that players radar.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:36 pm to
Didn't Trevathan play in a 3-4 and just chose a team playing 3-4?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:43 pm to
Yeah, but he could have easily played a 4-3 WILL.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:45 pm to
Ellerbe's position?

The upgrade Fleener made at TE after losing Watson is much bigger than upgrade Trevathan could have made over Ellerbe.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:59 pm to
He could have played MIKE too. Bottom line it would have improved our overall talent at linebacker which has been lacking. He could hold down either spot for years. Right now we just have short term fixes.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:02 pm to
well hooman and hill are short term, i think coby's value is being undervalued a bit in this discussion. JL will probably have more tackles than DT year 1.

we just need to hope that Jack fellar will drop to us at 12 during draft.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Yeah, because everyone knew Byrd's outcome in New Orleans at the time of his signing. Jesus, he was a top flight, pro bowl corner that was signed to be a dynamic game changer on D. When he signed here it was huge and not one fricking person thought it was a terrible signing. Now that he has not played up that contract and has been a huge disappointment, it is somehow the Saints fricking fault and they get pile driven for it? Man, come the frick on. You may have an argument on Gallette, but even then he got paid and then just self destructed. Still no fault of the Saints. But flame on.....


Barnwell did and said it repeatedly, just FYI...
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:00 pm to
Well Bill Barnwell can suck a dick!
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:02 pm to
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I'm not sure the talent difference in the NFL is that extreme. I just get the feeling that the roster moves we make really won't matter that much if Dennis Allen can out coach his offensive counterparts from week to week

The last two years it just seems like we've been unprepared, outcoached, and clueless on the defensive side of the ball. I know some of the guys we have now can play, and we've also added some more solid defenders. I really think this year is all on Dennis Allen


Not sure how you could say this sort of thing. It is borderline impossible not to see the sort of personnel the Panthers, Broncos, Bills, Seahawks, etc of the world have and simply chalk-up our deficiencies to coaching. I don't think Ryan was any defensive savant, but he was also building with playdough, not marble.
Posted by Breesy9
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:02 pm to
Link it
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/20/16 at 9:56 am to
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Barnwell has made no bones for several years how much he hates the way Loomis operates the Saints and Pelicans. No matter what we do, Barnwell was going to hate it.


And he is 100% correct
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