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re: pels and sixers talking about okafor

Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:54 pm to
@MikeAScotto


76ers & Pelicans discussing a Jahlil Okafor trade for Alexis Ajinca & a 2018 protected 1st rounder, league sources told Basketball Insiders.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9934 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:55 pm to
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76ers & Pelicans discussing a Jahlil Okafor trade for Alexis Ajinca & a 2018 protected 1st rounder, league sources told Basketball Insiders.


From mike Scotto. Supposedly willing to weaken protections if they take back asik.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11880 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Supposedly we reached out to Magic for Vucevic, but never got close.

I would have thought he would be a cheaper option in the way of compensation. I would not mind Okafor if the pick is a lottery protected 2018 pick. Would be nice if it included Asik instead of Ajinca though. Ajinca is only 2 years/$10.7 million.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8239 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:59 pm to
The part about Jrue worries me. If we trade Jrue, we are in full tank mode, and that is good, but I don't want Demps/Loomis anywhere near the rebuild.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:00 pm to
I'm trying really hard not to melt right now.

- We are about to give up another first rounder for another center that doesn't fit our coach or our system.

- We are doubling down on getting that sacrificial 8 seed and all but guaranteeing losing out on the top heavy star studded draft.

- We have no clear guarantees of Jrue's return to the point the Sixers have equal confidence in signing him. So we are just rolling the dice on Jrue since it seems we don't want to include him.


This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:03 pm to
I would trade everyone not named Buddy or AD. Trade all these bitches and acquire as many assets as possible to build around those two. What choice do we really have? There is not one single piece that we can realistically add that will get us anywhere near the top 4.
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
Kenna brah
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:03 pm to
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Luwawu-Cabarrot
incoming 504byrdgang
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30099 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:03 pm to
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- We are about to give up another first rounder for another center that doesn't fit our coach or our system.



at least its the 2018 pick, right now our only long term guys are AD, Asik, and Ajinca. 2 of which are borderline useless. We swap one of those out with Okafor.

quote:

- We are doubling down on getting that sacrificial 8 seed and all but guaranteeing losing out on the top heavy star studded draft.



I don't think he will be some kind of savior. we're still inconsistent at guard/SF

quote:

- We have no clear guarantees of Jrue's return to the point the Sixers have equal confidence in signing him. So we are just rolling the dice on Jrue since it seems we don't want to include him.



yup, which worries me. we could realistically net a 1st rounder or another quality guard for him...
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61466 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:06 pm to
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the Sixers have equal confidence in signing him.


If that were true they wouldn't be trying to trade for him. I really think Holiday is the Pels to lose, the question is, if Philly throws a full max at him, $31 million, do the Pels match? $20-$25 million is already iffy territory, if you go full max then you do have to start wondering if Rubio + trade assets for Jrue + $17 million in salary difference between Rubio/Holiday is better than keeping Holiday at all costs. Or rather paying him that much makes will make Holiday the new Asik just like Asik replaced Gordon.

As much cap space as Philly has would they really throw the max at Holiday?

This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5027 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:09 pm to
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We are about to give up another first rounder for another center that doesn't fit our coach or our system. 


Gentry is probably gone anyway. So the being a bad fit its not that concerning to me.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:09 pm to
Plan is to do a trade like this, then stretch or dump the other center this summer. Then, trade the 2017 pick for another young vet (think Butler if they get top 2 pick, guys like Fournier and Hezonja if pick is 6-10), and re-sign Jrue

They think this would give them a good team as early as next year and they would still be young enough to continue to grow in future
Posted by Toula
504
Member since Dec 2006
35399 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:14 pm to
I can get down with this if it's a 2018 pick and we are getting rid of either Asik or Ajinca.

I think you trade that pick for Okafor straight up all day.

AD with Okafor, Buddy, and another high profile rookie next year. That has the makings of something.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61466 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:15 pm to
Stretch and Butler are about the only words you wrote that I approve of.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:16 pm to
I wouldn't trade a top 5 pick for anything less than a Butler-type talent.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:16 pm to
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Plan is to do a trade like this, then stretch or dump the other center this summer. Then, trade the 2017 pick for another young vet (think Butler if they get top 2 pick, guys like Fournier and Hezonja if pick is 6-10), and re-sign Jrue

They think this would give them a good team as early as next year and they would still be young enough to continue to grow in future




On the flip side you can end up trading your 2018 pick for Okafor, then not get anything of value for that 2017 draft pick because its later then you wanted and Jrue walks.

Leaving the team with a lineup of: Frazier, Hield, Hill, Davis, Okafor, and no 2018 draft pick.

If that is the plan, this is a disgusting hail mary that Benson and Loomis need to pull a David Stern on.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:17 pm to
Realgm says the trade is Jrue and a first for Okafor not Alexis.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28723 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:19 pm to
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Realgm says the trade is Jrue and a first for Okafor not Alexis.



This is not the trade.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71569 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:20 pm to
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Realgm says the trade is Jrue and a first for Okafor not Alexis.


Anybody else bringing their torch and pitchfork to tonight's game?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:22 pm to
Go to realgm. It's the main headline.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Jrue and a first for Okafor


they giving us a first? if not, frick that noise...
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