re: pels and sixers talking about okafor

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Realgm says the trade is Jrue and a first for Okafor not Alexis.

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Would blow my brains out

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I would not want that guy starting. His future is in the Kanter role IMO

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We don't have a Adams to start therefore Okafor would not be a back up.

I don't think Demps will ever learn. He is completely incompetent.

I don't know if I'd agree that Okafor takes up the same space as AD. A lot of the highlights I'm seeing show him attacking the basket from 10-15 feet out because he's got a pretty damn good handle for a 7 footer. Again, I would see him filling the role we currently have Jones in minus pump faking from 3. Whether that's worth a 2018 1st is another question entirely and depends on what you can get for Jones. If Jones + Tyreke or Galloway can get you a mid-late 1st then I think you're better off taking Okafor who has upside and a cheaper deal than what Jones would likely cost to keep.

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I think that it will be rather Jrue+Asik+2018 1st for Okafor and filler/sweetener filler might be Sergio Rodriguez/Gerald Henderson (my guess)

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So we have to trade away Jrue and a 1st to get rid of Asik? No thanks.
If we are trading away Jrue, we better be getting a 1st back, not giving one out just to get rid of a dumb salary.

If we trade Jrue to Philly I'm taking my season tickets and mailing them back to Airline Drive

ESPN rumors say the Bulls are interested in Okafer, now I'm certain Demps will throw in our 1st to make that trade happen and he'll take back some bloated contracts

To me, this all depends on the protection of the pick and what the long term plan for Okafor is. If they are able to lottery protect the pick in 2018 and they see Okafor as a leader of the second unit, then I am okay with this trade.

Okafor can score and still can develop offensively. He will never be an above average defender or rebounder but I think he could be a better version of Greg Monroe. He projects to be better than most mid first round picks and will still be on a rookie deal.

I think a few posters have outlined why it would be ill advised to depend on Okafor as a starter or playing huge minutes with AD. Also, if the pick is not lottery protected then this is a non starter for me.

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I'd like the pro trade people to talk about the second question, not the first. How is trading for this guy and what he is likely to become as a player better than keeping options open that could land you better or different kinds of players?

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I look at it with these lenses:

1-If we keep the pick to draft a guy in 2018: We are waiting 3 years (from today) for this guy to contribute. If it's protected, say even just top 7, minimal chance this player moves the needle.

2- Keep options open: Vary rare does the opportunity present itself to land a young talent under control for a few years. Yes, Okafor has major flaws on defensive end, but he's only 20 and we get him until 2020 for dirt cheap. Hard to find another situation where a future first gives us that.

3- Fit and role for JO: I see a potential good fit next to AD. On offense, AD can space the floor and give JO room in the paint. On defense, JO hasn't played with a stretch 4 that can protect the lane and rebound like a C in AD.

4- Assets and young talent: We've been missing this for last few years. Okafor, Buddy, 2017 1st. Now we are getting somewhere. We've never had leverage in trades do to lack of assets.

If you ask me, would you draft Jahlil Okafor in 2018 with a pick outside the top 7? I say yes. And I get to get him a year and 1/2 early, even better!