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Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:17 pm to Jon1798
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I've always considered Jrue to be like Matt Stanford ish
Giving him way too much credit. He's more of a Ryan Tannehil.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 7:37 pm to CocoLoco
Cousins is Stafford, AD is Calvin, and Jrue is the replaceable running back they have every year
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:39 pm to PelicansBay
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PF - Cousins
C - Davis
lolwut
Posted on 6/8/17 at 12:37 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Before you lol all over yourself, remember: AD is 1st team all-NBA C. Davis primary operates from the elbow in (on offense), he also is the teams defensive anchor in the post. He's always top 2 in the league in blocks. In Gentry's offense: Cousins routinely receives the ball on the perimeter, he shoots 3's, dribble penetrates, and passes well. That's a PF in my book. Technically, didn't Boogie start at PF for the Kings the last 2 seasons (Koufos starting at C)? Sacramento also had 3 true C's in reserve (Papagiannis, Cauley-Stein, and Labissière).
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 1:07 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:27 am to PelicansBay
Per Albert Nahmad (cap expert) , also agreed with Pincus and Coon:
"a Warriors sweep could reduce the 2017-18 salary cap by around $1M relative to a 7-game series".
So Pels and other teams might have 1 million less money to spend. Also the tax line will be smaller.
Small difference - but in many trades 1 million is the deciding factor...
"a Warriors sweep could reduce the 2017-18 salary cap by around $1M relative to a 7-game series".
So Pels and other teams might have 1 million less money to spend. Also the tax line will be smaller.
Small difference - but in many trades 1 million is the deciding factor...
Posted on 6/8/17 at 5:42 am to pawel
No, $1 million is big, especially when the projections keep revising down. It doesn't mean as much to the Pels who should be working above the cap anyway, but it makes it that much harder for a team like the Knicks to go after Holiday. Demps should revise his offer to Holiday by $1 million.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:03 am to pawel
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So Pels and other teams might have 1 million less money to spend
As ATL stated, it shouldn't affect the Pels as hopefully they are operating over the cap.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:37 am to Epic Cajun
I meant small difference for Pels.
Agree that leaguewide it might be a problem f.e. for Boston's max, any Holiday's offer.
Hopefully league will send exact cap number soon after finals
Agree that leaguewide it might be a problem f.e. for Boston's max, any Holiday's offer.
Hopefully league will send exact cap number soon after finals
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:50 am to pawel
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Hopefully league will send exact cap number soon after finals
They can't. The reason the signing moratorium at the beginning of July exists is because that's the period that league and player's union accountants get together, add up all the numbers for the last fiscal year and figure out what the cap for next year will be.
2 years ago the cap got enough of an unexpected bump from the projection that the Pels could have signed Koufos with cap space instead of Asik with Bird Rights, an option that wasn't available under the cap projection. By that point most of the 1st and 2nd round of deals had been made with players. I don't think Demps would have actually gone after Koufos instead of Asik, but it shows that the exact number is usually not known before most of the deals are made.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:15 am to TigerinATL
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TNT and ESPN can't be happy with the Warriors and Cavs sweeping everyone. Playoff Games = Inventory
And? There is nothing they can do about that for a decade.
Again, making drastic changes to the league b/c of a sequence of fluke events led to this Warriors team is rash. Look at the vet DP-still very early, but there may be some bad unintended consequences
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:20 am to corndeaux
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And? There is nothing they can do about that for a decade.
It's not like the league isn't going to speak to ESPN/Turner again for 10 years. Those 2 companies are the NBA's largest customers, if they aren't happy about the product, it can have an impact.
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Making drastic changes to the league b/c of a sequence of fluke events led to this Warriors team is rash.
I'm not saying it's not rash, but rash action is just the kind of thing upset customers will demand if the ratings aren't sufficient.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:45 am to TigerinATL
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Those 2 companies are the NBA's largest customers, if they aren't happy about the product, it can have an impact.
I don't even know what that means. Tell the league to fix games to increase series length? Tell the league to lock the players out in the next CBA negotiations to "fix" competitive balance- which I don't believe is a long term problem nor can it be fixed in a good way for the NBA. Remember, the 2011 CBA lock out was all about "competitive balance" according to lead negotiator Adam Silver.
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rash action is just the kind of thing upset customers will demand if the ratings aren't sufficient.
So do the ratings matter or the inventory?
Ratings are up. League is as popular as it has ever been. That doesn't mean they should rest on their laurels, but they have a good formula. Yes, it is out of whack right now because of a half decade of lucky breaks for GS (and the Cavs) and a sports tv bubble (that will likely burst relatively soon).
The moaning from the bloggerati is asinine. They would have been complaining during Jordan's title runs- "No one can challenge the Bulls. This is boring" except it wasn't.
But things change, often without reason. No one had ever won 73 games. No one had ever won a Finals down 3-1. It's fun to post daily on a message board about whatever news of the day is happening. It's also often meaningless when you zoom out for a broader view
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:01 am to corndeaux
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I don't even know what that means
Yeah, you way overshot where I was aiming, I was continuing the 3 point line change conversation, not team building rules. Are the game rules built into the CBA? That's yearly competition comittee stuff isn't it? That's the kind of thing I figured you'd be able to do to fix competitive balance in a rash and reactionary manner.
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So do the ratings matter or the inventory?
Both. 4 highly rated games is probably better than 7 poorly rated games but obviously 7 highly rated games is the best situation.
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The moaning from the bloggerati is asinine.
I agree, but I also think the ratings are up for the spectacle of it all THIS year. If the Cavs get swept and we get the same match up again next year, I think the ratings will decline.
People can watch a sweep and still enjoy the games. The Pels were a pretty entertaining first round sweep in 3 of 4 games vs. the Warriors a few years back. So in game drama can be just as big of a draw as in series drama, but what in game drama is there really going to be if the Cavs get swept and blown out in 2 or 3 out of 4 games?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:18 am to TigerinATL
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Yeah, you way overshot where I was aiming, I was continuing the 3 point line change conversation
gotcha
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4 highly rated games is probably better than 7 poorly rated games but obviously 7 highly rated games is the best situation
agreed, but i'm not sure how anyone can control for that.
to me, the growth for TNT/ESPN is in getting more eyeballs/ad $$ from October-April. perhaps not scheduling putrid teams like the Knicks, Lakers, or even the Bulls for a combined 60+ national games would be a good place to start.
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I also think the ratings are up for the spectacle of it all THIS year. If the Cavs get swept and we get the same match up again next year, I think the ratings will decline.
that very well could be true, but that is putting the cart before the horse. we'll see what happens over the summer with these rosters
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:34 am to TigerinATL
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Yeah, you way overshot where I was aiming, I was continuing the 3 point line change conversation, not team building rules.
As discussed before, I think moving the 3 point line back would have the opposite effect of encouraging competition with the Warriors. I think the Warriors gain a distinct advantage over the rest of the league if you extended the 3pt line by 2' considering how good they are from the perimeter and where they shoot from already. They would separate themselves from the pack even more.
As I said, it is like in golf when they lenghthened the courses to tame Tiger, but all it did was give him more of a cushion by removing the short game guys from competing with him.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:36 am to NOFOX
And again, it's not about trying to catch the Warriors. It's about a more enjoyable product to watch. I don't want a league where every team averages 35-40 attempts per game but I promise you that is where we are heading
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:48 am to Crewz
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And again, it's not about trying to catch the Warriors. It's about a more enjoyable product to watch. I don't want a league where every team averages 35-40 attempts per game but I promise you that is where we are heading
And in the context of the specific discussion I was responding to, it was about competitive balance with the Warriors (cap being reduced due to Warriors sweeping and what to change to prevent that for extended series/increased TV take) and not about the enjoyment of the product.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:58 am to NOFOX
I don't care if the Warriors win the next eight titles as much as I want to see diversity in the product
I don't want every game to be a three point contest
I don't want every game to be a three point contest
Posted on 6/8/17 at 11:03 am to Crewz
Like, that Celtics team I saw make the final four sucked. Flat out. You put back the line or eliminate it, and they don't win 40 games. But that shot creates enough of an advantage that it allows them to win games because they take enough and make just enough
But they suck
But they suck
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