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re: Head on down Langston Galloway
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:25 am to PokerChamp21
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:25 am to PokerChamp21
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My concern is we let him get away from us like Seth Curry who had a great summer league on our team last year
Are a team's summer league guys restricted? Do we get first dibs on everyone that's on our summer league team?
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:29 am to 911Moto
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Are a team's summer league guys restricted? Do we get first dibs on everyone that's on our summer league team?
No. Anyone can sign our guys anytime. We get more in depth look at them by having them on our team working with our coaches, but they can sign with anyone.
ETA - obviously except for guys whose rights we own (Hield, Diallo)
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:30 am to 911Moto
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Are a team's summer league guys restricted?
No, but in theory all SL guys that aren't draft picks are minimum contract level guys, so being on your team gives you a leg up because of fit and role availability. But with all the free money floating around this offseason you never know.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:36 am to TigerinATL
In before people get all up in their feelings when we don't sign the summer league guy we like
It won't matter. Can we all at least acknowledge NOW that none of the unsigned guys on the SL roster are needle movers in the slightest and that even if we don't sign these guys, there will be 30 guys of equal talent available in January of we really need a 14th man
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. Every year the fan base goes apeshit over some guy that never ends up mattering in the NBA. And yes, I am including Seth Curry in that. Tim Frazier was just sitting there and if we lose Frazier, there are likely 10 more of him laying around. Enjoy SL, but don't overreact when your favorite guy isn't on the roster in October
It won't matter. Can we all at least acknowledge NOW that none of the unsigned guys on the SL roster are needle movers in the slightest and that even if we don't sign these guys, there will be 30 guys of equal talent available in January of we really need a 14th man
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. Every year the fan base goes apeshit over some guy that never ends up mattering in the NBA. And yes, I am including Seth Curry in that. Tim Frazier was just sitting there and if we lose Frazier, there are likely 10 more of him laying around. Enjoy SL, but don't overreact when your favorite guy isn't on the roster in October
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:38 am to corndeaux
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the spending this summer deflated the cap projection for next year.
That makes zero sense to me.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:42 am to Crewz
I agree with this, but it's also about fit and needed roles and development.
For example, I'd love to take a flyer on Damien Inglis because I think he'd be a good depth piece for us to develop. He's only 21, so if we sign him to a fair deal and let him develop at the end of the bench with Diallo that could be a steal.
Drew would be a good pick up too if we lose Frazier since he'd be cheap and does a lot of the same things...but won't lose sleep if we don't have him on Opening Night either
For example, I'd love to take a flyer on Damien Inglis because I think he'd be a good depth piece for us to develop. He's only 21, so if we sign him to a fair deal and let him develop at the end of the bench with Diallo that could be a steal.
Drew would be a good pick up too if we lose Frazier since he'd be cheap and does a lot of the same things...but won't lose sleep if we don't have him on Opening Night either
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:42 am to Crewz
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It won't matter. Can we all at least acknowledge NOW that none of the unsigned guys on the SL roster are needle movers in the slightest and that even if we don't sign these guys, there will be 30 guys of equal talent available in January of we really need a 14th man
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. Every year the fan base goes apeshit over some guy that never ends up mattering in the NBA. And yes, I am including Seth Curry in that. Tim Frazier was just sitting there and if we lose Frazier, there are likely 10 more of him laying around. Enjoy SL, but don't overreact when your favorite guy isn't on the roster in October
Yeah, I dont really give a shite about summer league players other than watching Hield/Diallo. I would greatly prefer Babbit gone for someone younger with more upside/potential (maybe Inglis) even if they are likely to end up as a nobody. Rather use end of bench for lotto tickets.
You did just see a summer league guy get offered 4/$50M today, but that is the exception.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:42 am to Crewz
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In before people get all up in their feelings when we don't sign the summer league guy we like
It won't matter. Can we all at least acknowledge NOW that none of the unsigned guys on the SL roster are needle movers in the slightest and that even if we don't sign these guys, there will be 30 guys of equal talent available in January of we really need a 14th man
Sorry, it is just a pet peeve of mine. Every year the fan base goes apeshit over some guy that never ends up mattering in the NBA. And yes, I am including Seth Curry in that. Tim Frazier was just sitting there and if we lose Frazier, there are likely 10 more of him laying around. Enjoy SL, but don't overreact when your favorite guy isn't on the roster in October
I wouldn't mind giving a roster spot to Jankovic or Inglis.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:43 am to Jester
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That makes zero sense to me.
The cap is based upon a percentage of basketball related income. If the teams don't spend the full 50% of basketball related income on the salaries of players for this season, that money goes toward the next seasons salary cap.
That's how I understand it.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:46 am to Epic Cajun
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The cap is based upon a percentage of basketball related income. If the teams don't spend the full 50% of basketball related income on the salaries of players for this season, that money goes toward the next seasons salary cap.
That's how I understand it.
I'm pretty sure that any money beyond what is obligated contractually is then allocated to the players at the end of the season, so the players never get less than the agreed percentage each year.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:48 am to Crewz
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In before people get all up in their feelings
Too late, have you seen any Nick Minnerath highlights? He's this year's Onome Ojo for sure.
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none of the unsigned guys on the SL roster are needle movers in the slightest
I've only read a few profiles and watched 1 highlight video, but I feel David Fisher was underselling Minnerath when he said he was Cunningham and Babbitt combined into one player. I'm not saying he becomes a regular rotation player, but he has enough potential, even at his age, to make me want him on the end of the bench more than Babbitt.
And he's the only SL guy I've really looked at. I briefly googled Jankovic when his name came up and he was considered a star player for team's he's been on. He might be better than Babbitt too. You don't need to move the needle to be more worthy of a roster spot than some of our incumbents.
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:51 am to Jester
The biggest difference between fans and coaches IMO, is that fans value the unknown while coaches value the known
It seems like this board would rather give a spot to a SL guy than Babbitt because the unknown is so alluring. We don't know what he can be and that excites us. A coach would see it the other way. That would terrify him and knowing what Luke is and what he isn't is comforting
If Nick M ever even produces as much as Luke has in his career, he will be an outlier. Yet, people seem to think that so many of these SL guys could be better than Babbitt. History definitively says otherwise
It seems like this board would rather give a spot to a SL guy than Babbitt because the unknown is so alluring. We don't know what he can be and that excites us. A coach would see it the other way. That would terrify him and knowing what Luke is and what he isn't is comforting
If Nick M ever even produces as much as Luke has in his career, he will be an outlier. Yet, people seem to think that so many of these SL guys could be better than Babbitt. History definitively says otherwise
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:52 am to cgrand
undrafted payer that dominated first summer league, killed it in the d-league, got the call to NYC made 2nd team all rookie, played 82 games last year. from south louisiana and wants to play here...and people are still bitching
tiger droppings ftw!
tiger droppings ftw!
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 7/7/16 at 11:57 am to Crewz
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If Nick M ever even produces as much as Luke has in his career, he will be an outlier.
Shouldn't we be aiming for outliers, especially if the expense is just a guy that probably shouldn't play much unless the season's gone to shite again?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:07 pm to TigerinATL
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Shouldn't we be aiming for outliers, especially if the expense is just a guy that probably shouldn't play much unless the season's gone to shite again?
Dude is basically the same age as Babbitt and has never made an NBA roster. This isn't some high upside guy that we're taking a flier on. Minnerath is basically going to cost as much as Babbitt with the hope that he's about as good as Babbitt, but with a strong chance he is nowhere near as good as Babbitt.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:17 pm to Jester
Exactly. The optimism that runs rampant with an unknown gets out of control
Personally, I don't car if it's Babbitt or some SL guy, but I won't show frustration either way. It doesn't matter. And that's all I hope for from others, though history says overreaction a will occur again
Personally, I don't car if it's Babbitt or some SL guy, but I won't show frustration either way. It doesn't matter. And that's all I hope for from others, though history says overreaction a will occur again
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:19 pm to Crewz
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If Nick M ever even produces as much as Luke has in his career, he will be an outlier. Yet, people seem to think that so many of these SL guys could be better than Babbitt. History definitively says otherwise
Were Frazier and Ennis outliers? I think there are relacement level players floating around summer league/d league especially that fit for our system. I would take on more risk for more potential reward in a bench spot that should not get many minutes.
Basically if Babbit is getting real minutes for any extended period, then injury bug struck again and we are probably better off losing and developing guys than trying to eke out a few extra wins. If you put a guy like Inglis in our system and he plays limited minutes in blowouts and stuff, he may develop or play well enough to spark interest/be considered an asset. If he sucks, you cut him and try out someone else.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:21 pm to Jester
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but with a strong chance he is nowhere near as good as Babbitt.
Babbitt isn't good though.
And Crewz you are right. we do know what we have in Babbitt. A huge defensive liability that can't do anything on a basketball court except shoot an open 3 if given time. Can't rebound, can't defend, can't penetrate, can't get his shot off quick.
If there are minimal injuries, he will never play.
I'll take a 21 year old anyday over Babbitt. As i've said many many times over this summer, you can't find that diamond in the rough if you never actually look. If you don't look, you can't even find the cubic zirconium.
We had 1 2nd round pick we kept over the last 10 years. Kind of hard to get a Draymond Green, or Demarre Carrol, or Kris Middleton if you never keep your 2nd round pick.
We turned Ish Smith into two 2nd round picks.
BDJ was looking like someone that could play.
Ennis just got paid for someone who barely played nba minutes.
They don't sound like outliers, they sound like assets to me.
Can Babbitt even get you a 2nd round pick?
This post was edited on 7/7/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:23 pm to TeddyPadillac
They are looking. And if they determine that they haven't found a diamond after having these guys in practices and games, I trust them.
My argument isn't that they shouldn't look. It's that fans shouldn't get all up in arms when the team determines these guys aren't gonna be the diamond. Remember Denzel Bowles people? For those who said no...exactly.
My argument isn't that they shouldn't look. It's that fans shouldn't get all up in arms when the team determines these guys aren't gonna be the diamond. Remember Denzel Bowles people? For those who said no...exactly.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 12:26 pm to Crewz
Where did he end up? He was shooting.
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