re: Asik signs 5 year deal for $60 million, 5 year not guaranteed

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when you consider his salary compared to the new reality of NBA money.

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He's well suited as a 6th man, and now his salary is a lot more commensurate with that role. I think a lot of people saying nobody would want him are thinking about him as the starting PG.

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I"m just very unhappy with him getting 4 years at $12 million a year. He's not a $12 million a year center in any year, he's barely an $8.

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Maybe you'd be less unhappy if you stopped exaggerating your rounding

$44.5/4 = $11.125

No it's not $8, but it's also not $12. Also, I know you don't believe the distribution of the new cap dollars will be equal, and that's true to a certain extent, but Aminu got $7.5 million, so I think it's pretty safe to say $8 million ain't what it used to be.

That's fair. You would also think a more flowing system will end some of the "your turn, my turn" we saw.

It's just weird because of the injuries. Evans has basically played a season as the starting pg. That's not his role, but he was fairly good at it. How do things change w/ health? If he's coming off the bench? Etc

He's actually only guaranteed 4/44 (or 45 depending on who you believe), so 11 mil per or maybe just over 11 per. I'm more annoyed at the combined 16 mil that will be going to Asik and Ajinça on a yearly basis, and the future cap limitations that will possibly lead to.

$11M per is about the future MLE

so we just got a starting 5 for the MLE and a backup for less than half of that amount.

the team who just won a title have a similar (better, but similar) starting 5. he makes almost double what asik does, with all the same problems (not finishing games, FT issues, not being a good match up every game, etc)

Will every GM in the league be clamoring for Reke? Of course not. However, he absolutely has a unique skill set, and he could help a young and/or rebuilding team get better.

The problem with trying to move Reke next year is what if Jrue isn't healthy? (Huge concern. See the recent 3 million dollar fine.) Then we have 11 mil on the books that is untradeable, and no PG. Tough to move Reke for KD(most likely fantasy land) or any other max guy if you also have to go get a PG.

Ultimately, this is the most concerning part of the Asik deal. I think we had to do it, but the theoretical cap flexibility we have now rests on Holiday's stress fracture(s).

With that said, everyone is setting up to make a run a FA's next year. Maybe the best move Dell can make is zig when everyone else is zagging. Move EG at the deadline for a good wing from whoever is blowing it up and/or clearing the deck and try again in 2017.

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the team who just won a title have a similar (better, but similar) starting 5. he makes almost double what asik does

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Umm....Bogut is scheduled to make $12 this coming year and $11 next. I'm not sure if the problem is with "almost" or "double" but one of those words is wrong.

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the team who just won a title have a similar (better, but similar) starting 5. he makes almost double what asik does, with all the same problems (not finishing games, FT issues, not being a good match up every game, etc)

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Don't compare a healthy Bogut to Asik
GSW is a better team with a healthy Bogut.
He's not a free throw liability like Asik is and he's a better defender. He also can actually play on offense. He was the #1 frickin pick in the draft. His skills are far better than Asiks.

And GSW got away with paying him and Lee all that money b/c Barnes/Green/Thompson made $7 million combined last year.

I'm not happy about Asik, but looking forward, i will give him a chance to prove me wrong and i'll be happy to come back and say he was worth the money, which i don't think he is right now.
I think he had some lingering injury issues this past year that prevented him from playing better. Hopefully he comes out this year and show us more of what we expect from him. I can take the terrible offense, somewhat. What i can't take is the lack of effort to crash the boards more and having guys out hustle him. and the pansy dunk attempts that get blocked.
Only 1 center was worst this year from inside three feet. Pachulia. think about that.

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He's not a free throw liability like Asik is and he's a better defender. He also can actually play on offense. He was the #1 frickin pick in the draft. His skills are far better than Asiks.

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this whole thing is

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He's not a free throw liability like Asik is a

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i think he's worse than asik

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He was the #1 frickin pick in the draft. His skills are far better than Asiks.

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bogut was a far better offensive player before his body broke down. i don't think he can move well enough on offense. he's really limited now, like asik. better for sure, but he's not putting up 15/game again anytime soon.

plus on that note, let me add bogut is a big injury issue. last year GS was incredibly lucky about injuries all year, with bogut being the biggest variable

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I think he had some lingering injury issues this past year that prevented him from playing better.

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i agree. he didn't look nearly as mobile on D as he had in the past. in houston and chicago he was one of the best PNR big man defenders. i hope his health improves and our defense improves (likely) to use him like he was used in the past. if he can do that, AD gets to be the help-side guy he wants to be and our interior and pnr defense may be amazing. that's wishful thinking but it isn't a crazy possibility