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re: True Detective S2E3: "Maybe Tomorrow"

Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:37 am to
I feel apoplectic about this.and strident.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:44 am to
I really don't understand the bashing of this show. I'm enjoying it, but it obviously isn't going as well as season one (yet), but that would be ridiculously high expectations to even have to expect the same as the previous story.

I see everyokne bashing Kitsch character and I can't help but feel like obviously they're just kind of building him up, extremely slowly I'll admit, but I think eventually he may end up being a critical character later in the show. He wouldn't be in here if it was just going to be about him maybe being gay. Obviously, they could make it like that and it will be really dumb, but I'm expecting him to play a critical role at some point.

Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:53 am to
I haven't watched the new episode yet but only a 7 page thread the day after is not a good sign for this show.
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:54 am to
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I really don't understand the bashing of this show. I'm enjoying it, but it obviously isn't going as well as season one (yet), but that would be ridiculously high expectations to even have to expect the same as the previous story.



The issue is NP is trying to do a character study with bad writing, bad characters and bad acting.

If I'm HBO and we renew for a third season, I tell NP to make it a straight forward murder mystery, and don't try another character study. The yellow king was a great idea until NP basically abandoned it, and the murder of Casper could be intriguing but all we are getting are shitty VV monologues and a CHP officer in denial of his sexuality.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:55 am to
That paper mâché monologue was just awful
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:59 am to
I just want to say that I called out Woodrugh as gay in the E1 thread and almost got laughed off of the board by a few people.
Posted by STLhog
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:02 am to
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I really don't understand the bashing of this show. I'm enjoying it, but it obviously isn't going as well as season one (yet), but that would be ridiculously high expectations to even have to expect the same as the previous story.


I pretty much agree with all of this. It's certainly not a homerun but its been pretty solid.

VV was way better this episode and CFs character is still pretty badass although it's somewhat cliche.

The whole Kitsch thing seems soo forced. It's like they even noticed it in the show when the gay trick dude was like "they'll never let you in with that troubled cop inuendo" or whatever it was he said..

McAdams has been weak too, although CF helps her out because the chemistry is good.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:02 am to
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I really don't understand the bashing of this show


Everyone wants to be a film critic.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:04 am to
This show is beyond reproach according to r/truedetective
Posted by Croacka
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:06 am to
I don't think this show would be a major hit on its own, but it is fighting a hopeless battle since it is no doubt going to be constantly measured against season 1

It's hard to watch it objectively on its own, but if you can, you won't find it to be terrible, but still just decent
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:11 am to
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The whole Kitsch thing seems soo forced.


I really dont understand why he is needed or the purpose of his character besides to add in a gay spin.

Posted by tigereye1760
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:13 am to
Along with is eyes burned Caspere also had his privates blown off, then in the scene at the club one of the gay hookers said that he liked to watch. Coincidence, I think not.

Calling it now, Woodrugh or Churchman is the raven masked guy.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:15 am to
What we are seeing here is the second album thing you see with musicians. They spend years developing the material that ends up on their first album then they have to start from scratch for their second album and have to do it in a year or two which means it's normally not near as good as the first outing.

I'm gonna see it through but obviously this has been a big let down.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

The issue is NP is trying to do a character study with bad writing, bad characters and bad acting.
I've enjoyed this season overall and I'm still intrigued but I did lol when VV said "liked young trim" in that club scene. It just made me cringe so hard.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:16 am to
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What we are seeing here is the second album thing you see with musicians. They spend years developing the material that ends up on their first album then they have to start from scratch for their second album


yup, i said this earlier in the thread. pizolatto was pretty hesitant to do a second season (he certainly knew this) and i guess the success of the first season just made him feel like he had to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:17 am to
My critiques of thus season have nothing to do with expectations from season 1. The writing is pretty bad...several times during dialogue I could hear the writer writing words instead of real characters saying things. It is jarring.

The central story about Vinci and corruption and a waked out bird man are really cool elements. Last night became law and order vinci...let's go knock on doors and interview random weird characters...the scene at the mayors house was comical...in a bad way.

That said...it's not all bad. I love Collin Farrell character...he is the only one so far with a real arch and motivation you can identify with.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:19 am to
Who is churchman?
Posted by tigereye1760
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:22 am to
VV's guy that he couldn't get a hold of last night and then shoved him when he saw Stan was dead.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:29 am to
Gotcha. That guy is skethcy. I think he may be in cahoots with Vaughns wife...she said something weird to him in the first episode..."everyone gets touched"

Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:36 am to
I feel much better about the show today than I did last Monday. VV was much better last night. Still 5 episodes to go, but I can see it getting better as it goes.
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